Apple iPhone 8 Plus reviewed: The best smartphone camera we’ve ever tested

94
DxOMark Mobile

The Apple iPhone 8 Plus has a main camera system truly worthy of a flagship phone. Similar to the iPhone 7 Plus, it features two cameras — a wide-angle 12MP main camera, and a 12MP telephoto camera with a slower lens for zooming in on subjects and for special effects such as Portrait mode. Comparing the camera datasheets of the older iPhone 7 Plus and the new iPhone 8 Plus make the two look almost identical; however, under-the-hood upgrades have given the 8 Plus an image quality and camera performance boost in almost every one of our tested categories.

Key camera specifications:

  • 12MP main (wide-angle) camera with BSI sensor, f/1.8 lens
  • 12MP telephoto camera, f/2.8 lens
  • Optical zoom, with digital zoom up to 10x
  • Portrait mode
  • Portrait Lighting (beta)
  • Optical image stabilization (main camera only)
  • Quad-LED True Tone flash with Slow sync
  • Autofocus with focus pixels
  • Wide-gamut color capture
  • Body and face detection
  • AutoHDR

Test summary

The Apple iPhone 8 Plus is the best-performing mobile device camera we have ever tested. Its overall DxOMark Mobile score of 94 sets a new record, beating out the 90 points for both the Google Pixel and the HTC U11, as well as the 92 that its sibling iPhone 8 just scored. Its Photo score of 96 is also a new record, blowing past the Pixel’s 90. For Video, its score of 89 is among our highest, but tied with the HTC U11 and slightly below the Pixel’s 91. Of course, the Pixel is nearly a year old now, so it makes sense that Apple’s new flagship is breaking new ground.

Bright light

Images captured outdoors with the iPhone 8 Plus are generally stunning, with excellent detail preservation, accurate color, and impressive dynamic range. The iPhone 8 Plus builds on the excellent performance of the iPhone 7 family with even better results in bright light. In particular, it has improved exposure calculation, and excellent ability to capture HDR (High Dynamic Range) scenes.

This scene has proved challenging to many of the smartphones we have tested, but the 8 Plus handles it like a champ. If you didn’t know that the image came from a phone, it would it would be very hard to tell.

Compared to the iPhone 7 family, the iPhone 8 models do a better job of capturing HDR scenes. In this comparison, you can see that they offer better detail preservation and overall exposure than the iPhone 7 Plus. Overall, their performance matches that of the Google Pixel for the scene (click on the individual images to bring up the full-resolution versions for easier comparison):

iPhone 8 Plus

Google Pixel

iPhone 8

iPhone 7 Plus

Low light and Flash

Low light: Exposures are generally accurate, although there can be some underexposure in very low light. The 8 Plus’s strong performance in low light and with flash, combined with its excellent ability to recognize and properly expose faces, make it a natural for anyone wanting to easily create memories of their indoor events.

Even in tricky mixed-lighting situations, the iPhone 8 Plus does an excellent job of providing an accurate and detailed rendering of indoor scenes.

Zoom and Bokeh

While the iPhone 8 Plus camera is amazing overall, it is in our new test categories of Zoom and Bokeh where it really stands out. While the technical specifications for the second camera that help make these features possible are very similar to the specs for the second camera on the iPhone 7 Plus on paper, upgrades to the image processing software have raised the 8 Plus’s performance to a new level. Especially important for those looking to capture portraits with their phones, or to create artistic effects in macro and other closeup shots, zoom and bokeh used to require standalone cameras. But phones like the 8 Plus are changing that.

Zoom: The dedicated telephoto camera on the 8 Plus gives it a large advantage over most traditional single-camera designs when it comes to zoom. At 51, it has the highest Zoom sub-score of any mobile device we have measured — a full 5 points better than its predecessor, the iPhone 7 Plus. Here you can see that at 2x (full-frame equivalent of about 56mm), the iPhone 8 Plus does an excellent job of both framing and detail preservation (click on individual images to get a full-size version for easier comparison):

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

Google Pixel

iPhone 7 Plus

Bokeh: Overall, the 8 Plus is the highest-performing phone we’ve tested when it comes to bokeh. Despite the relatively small changes in the actual camera specs, additional development and processing power allow it to beat out the 7 Plus by 5 points, putting it even further ahead of the Google Pixel, with a score of 55 compared to 30.

You can see the improved depth effect on the iPhone 8 Plus compared to the older model, showing that the dual-camera system now does a better job of blurring the foreground like a true optical blur, instead of blurring only the background. The images below also show how the second camera of the 8 Plus provides a much more artistic rendering of the image than the single camera on the iPhone 8 (click on individual images to get a full-size version for easier comparison):

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

Google Pixel

iPhone 7 Plus

Video

Apple continues to up its game on Video. With a score of 89, the 8 Plus has the best video quality of any Apple device, starting with the best exposure calculation. In particular, exposure is more stable while panning or walking than on previous iPhones. Its HDR capabilities are also very good, but highlights are sometimes blown out. There is still room for improvement, as the iPhone 8 Plus’s Video score of 89 still only ties the HTC U11 and is still behind the Google Pixel’s 91 points. This said, the 8 Plus camera does an excellent job of face tracking when shooting video in bright light.

Photo scores explained

Our Overall Photo Score is a composite of a number of category sub-scores. Here we detail how the 8 Plus performed in each of those categories.

Exposure and Contrast (89)

The 8 Plus does an excellent job of accurately calculating exposure, improving on the performance of the iPhone 7 family. Its ability to represent high-contrast scenes is also improved, probably at least in part due to additional processing power and improved software for combining multiple frames into a single image. Apple’s AutoHDR technology is some of the best on the market for rendering high-dynamic-range scenes. The 8 Plus also does an unusually good job at recognizing and properly exposing faces in an image.

This HDR scene tests the boundaries of what a mobile device camera can capture. The 8 Plus does an excellent job of keeping the highlights visible while still showing detail in the shaded foliage in the foreground.

Color (78)

Color is pleasing both outside and indoors. White balance is also quite good. The 8 Plus improves slightly over the iPhone 8 in its color performance by completely avoiding visible color shading, even in low-light conditions.

The iPhone 8 Plus accurately renders pleasingly colorful outdoor scenes like this one.

Color saturation in iPhone 8 Plus images remains very good, even under low-light conditions. However, in low light and in typical indoor (tungsten) light, 8 Plus images pick up a noticeable color cast that you can see in this chart of test sample patches:

Using the reference patch on the far right, notice that the light gray patch nearly turns peach under very low-light conditions (left-most “H” column, luminosity similar to candlelight).

A note on color white balance evaluation: Apple has clearly made a choice to provide a slightly warmer white balance than Google for some situations. For example, in this outdoor scene, the image from the 8 Plus has a bit warmer yellowish cast than the Pixel’s image. Both versions are pleasing, so which you prefer is a matter of taste. In the case of our color scoring system, we allow for a slight variation in color from what is perfectly accurate to accommodate some style choices on the part of camera makers.

iPhone 8 Plus, showing a slight yellow cast

Google Pixel

Autofocus (74)

Although the 8 Plus doesn’t always focus quickly, once it focuses, it is remarkably accurate. In both our long- and short-delay tests, the 8 Plus was able to repeatably capture an in-focus scene. The sometimes longer delay — which occurred periodically in both bright and low light — can mean that users miss the shot they intended.

Even in bright light, the 8 Plus’s  autofocus sometimes hesitated, which can mean missing the shot you want.
Similarly, in our fast trigger tests, the 8 Plus didn’t always refocus right away. However, once the 8 Plus focused, it was on the money. Given a longer interval, the camera focused accurately and quickly every time.

Detail (64)

The 8 Plus does an excellent job of capturing detail under a wide variety of lighting conditions, especially when there is no motion in the scene. That makes it especially good for landscape images. There is a noticeable loss of detail when there is motion, especially in low-light — as you can see in this chart of detail preservation versus light level:

(Our Family score reflects scenes with moving objects, simulating photographing people at events, while the Landscape line is for scenes without subject motion.)

It is easy to forget how far smartphone cameras have come in just a few years. These tight crops of an area in our standard natural test scene demonstrate how much more detail the iPhone 8 Plus captures than previous generations of iPhones:


The images were all taken under very-low light (5 Lux) handheld conditions, showing the improvement in detail preservation and noise suppression in successive iPhone models.

Noise (68)

Similar to its detail score, the 8 Plus features a very low level of noise when capturing static scenes, outperforming every other phone in our database. Even the darkest areas in HDR scenes have very low levels of noise, and blue skies are almost without noise. There is some slight luminance noise indoors and in very low light, but well within acceptable limits. In this indoor test target scene, for example, the 8 Plus is a little further off in exposure than the Google Pixel, but has lower noise:

In very low light, the Pixel does a slightly better job of properly exposing the image (only a small cropped area shown here), but has visible color noise compared to the iPhone 8 Plus (iPhone 8 Plus image crops are on the top row, Google Pixel on the bottom).

This next comparison image is another that shows how quickly smartphone camera technology is advancing. This image was shot with the iPhone 7 Plus and the 8 Plus, both in Portrait mode. The newer model does a much better job of suppressing noise, especially on the model’s face:

iPhone 7 Plus version of the image.

iPhone 8 Plus version, showing better detail and lower noise; note, however, the slight bokeh artifact visible around the hair.

Artifacts (73)

The 8 Plus, like most iPhone models we’ve tested, has very few artifacts in its images, achieving an excellent artifact sub-score as a result. Interestingly, the iPhone 8 outscores the 8 Plus in this area. Slight flare in harsh light and moiré when repeating patterns are present reduced its score somewhat. Some visible ghosting can also occur.

Flash (84)

Flash-only photos with the iPhone 8 Plus feature accurate white balance and good color rendering. With both flash and flash combined with ambient light, there is low noise and good detail preservation. There can be a slight yellow cast when flash is mixed with a low level of ambient light, and exposure and white balance can vary from shot to shot in a sequence.

This portrait, lit with only flash, shows a slight yellow cast.

Zoom (51)

The iPhone 8 Plus sets a new standard for zoom performance in a smartphone, a tribute to its dual camera design, and the image processing improvements Apple has made since the introduction of the 7 Plus. There is still some room for improvement: when shooting several images in a row using zoom, some (but not all) images show artifacts.

Even with the 8 Plus’s stunning Zoom and Portrait mode performance, photographers still need to watch out for possible side effects. For example, these images show that subject motion can detract from an otherwise excellent portrait:

This Portrait mode image is sharp and also blurs the background to help make the subject pop.

However, the same scene with the subject waving his hand shows that the 8 Plus hasn’t addressed the resulting motion blur.

Bokeh (55)

The bokeh effect on the 8 Plus is remarkably reliable, as the 8 Plus is not fooled nearly as often as other smartphone cameras when it makes estimations of depth, even compared to competitors with similar dual-camera systems.

In low light, the iPhone 8 Plus does a much better job of rendering a bokeh effect than the Google Pixel, although at the cost of some noise. Further, the Pixel version of the image has strong artifacts (click on individual images to get a full-size version for easier comparison):

iPhone 8

iPhone 8 Plus

Google Pixel

iPhone 7 Plus

Key to the 8 Plus’s excellent Bokeh score is very good depth estimation and facial recognition. These technologies help ensure that blurs are created naturally and effectively. There is room for improvement, though — in particular, when the subject touches the edges of the frame, the camera can mistake portions of the subject for part of the background, and ends up blurring those portions accordingly.

This type of artifact is visible in the portrait in this review, in which some of the subject’s hair is blurred — an unfortunate and sometimes unpleasant effect on an important part of the portrait.

Video scores explained

The Apple iPhone 8 Plus achieves a total Video score of 89. As with the photo scores, this is calculated from the sub-scores it achieves in a number of categories of tests that help define its overall video capabilities, specifically: Exposure and Contrast (81), Color (87), Autofocus (84), Texture (50), Noise (68), Artifacts (81), and Stabilization (91). Of particular note, stabilization is excellent, color rendering is very accurate, and exposure is greatly improved over previous models. Exceptionally good face tracking also aids in accurate subject exposure. Video suffers from some judder, and a small amount of frame-rate inaccuracy.

One thing the iPhone 8 Plus’s video lacks somewhat is good exposure in low light. As light falls off, the 8 Plus tends to underexpose, as you can see from this chart:

Ideally, the gray patch should expose to about 50. The 8 Plus comes close in bright light, but at low-light levels, it chooses a very dark exposure.

Conclusion: The best smartphone camera we’ve ever tested

Overall, the Apple iPhone 8 Plus is an excellent choice for the needs of nearly every smartphone photographer. It features outstanding image quality, zoom for those needing to get closer to their subjects, and an industry-leading Portrait mode for artistic efforts. It is at the top of our scoring charts in nearly every category — and in particular, its advanced software allows it to do an amazing job of capturing high-dynamic range scenes and images in which it can recognize faces.

We look forward to testing the iPhone X and comparing it against the iPhone 8 Plus, as the X’s wider aperture and its OIS on both cameras should place it on the cutting edge of zoom and portrait performance — enhancing the iPhone shooting experience for memory makers and image lovers even more. 

94
DxOMark mobile
Apple iPhone 8 Plus
96
DxOMark Mobile
photo
89
DxOMark Mobile
video

Pros

  • One of the best HDR performances of any device we have tested
  • Excellent use of face detection to accurately expose faces
  • Overall, the best zoom we’ve tested
  • Best Bokeh we’ve seen in a mobile device, but still room for improvement

Pros

  • Very good stabilization
  • Best exposure of any Apple device, but still not industry-leading
  • Very good color rendering under almost all lighting condtions
  • Good face tracking in bright light

Cons

  • Color cast in low and indoor (tungsten) lighting
  • Some autofocus issues

Cons

  • Some exposure issues
  • Visible noise in low-light conditions

A note about image formats for this review: The iPhones 8, 8 Plus and X record photographs in the DCI-P3 colorspace, which their displays also use. DCI-P3 is newer and larger than the sRGB color space that most devices use and most web browsers assume. So to ensure that the images we used in the review display properly on a wide variety of browsers and devices, we converted the originals from DCI-P3 to sRGB using Photoshop (which is why the published test photos show Photoshop as the creator). This can slightly reduce the richness of color in some cases from what you would see when viewing the original images on a DCI-P3-calibrated display with appropriate software. We also captured the original images using the new HEIF (High-Efficiency Image Format), but then converted them to very high-quality JPEGs for viewing in standard browsers and image editing software. (HEIF is very similar to JPEG, but provides better compression for similar image quality, so the conversion makes the sample image file sizes larger than they were when shot.) Please note, however, that unlike our test images, some of the comparison photos used in this review were shot in JPEG and used as-is for illustrative purposes, and were not used to compute scores.

  • Squidels

    Amazing camera review. Just a question, do you take into account the video capabilities of phones like 4k 60fps which the iPhone 8 and 8 Plus are capable of doing?

    • Maicon Bruisma

      I believe not yet, they record in full HD and 4k30fps, which is the default but not derivations. So much so that they do not make recordings at 1080p60fps.

    • GCHQ

      Update, Video score: 92

  • Brandon D’Souza

    Best smartphone camera for the next two weeks am i rite. Comparisons to Google Pixels i found helpful

  • JR3

    Seems like Samsung does not pay you guys anymore like Apple does. Where are the reviews for the latest Samsung devices which actually may be the best cameras ever according to real world experience. The Note 8 kills all. It’s a complete beast.

    • Max

      weird. all reviews have the iphone 8 and 8+ outperforming the note 8’s camera 🙂

      • JR3

        Not true..only those sites who really are obsessed with Apple state this. Hands on the note 8 is the best camera ever.

        • Max

          well all the reviews i read said the iphone is better. so there`s that. i’m gonna trust tech journalists and professional photographers more than i trust you.

          • No you don’t understand! Every single review that disagrees with his opinion has been paid off by Apple where as the ones that put the Note 8 ahead are the only ones with the courage to speak their true opinions! 😉

          • Pepe

            Stone Edwards Dude, no… YOU DON’T understand this is a serious review. If you believe Note 8’s is better, then DO a serious review explaining all the technical stuff, NOT YOUR OPINIONS. Fact’s are based on evidence, NOT ON YOUR OPINIONS.

          • You know I was kidding right? I had hoped the winky face was enough to show I was being sarcastic

          • Anton Zuykov

            Except that Apple never paid anyone, while Samsung was punished by the court system for doing exactly that – paying for reviews. Odd, how it works out, isn’t it?

          • OBVIOUSLY the court system was paid off by Apple in order to find Samsung guilty as well! See it’s all one big giant global (universal?) conspiracy!

            Just to be clear THIS IS ALL SARCASM

        • Arthur Dent

          Provide a link to a review from a well-respected site that compares Note 8 to iPhone 8 and says that Note 8 is the best ever.

          Link or GTFO.

        • Pepe

          JR3 Dude, this is a serious review of the cameras. It’s NOT an opinion, like yours. The iPhone 8 camera is better. Get over it, don’t be an Android fanboy. This review is a fact because is very well done. It doesn’t matter what you think, this is the reality you like it or not.

    • Vitaly Vaschenko

      Off course, anything that does not match your opinion is a paid opinion. Poor world outlook, nothing more.
      At least the reviewer has brought a lot of facts and comparisons. You brought nothing but a hurt squeal.

      • JR3

        And you are mad the Note 8 has a much better camera.

        • Max

          And you are mad the Note 8 has a much worse camera.

          fixed that for ya bud
          https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-vs-galaxy-note-8-camera-shootout,review-4685.html

          • JR3

            Tom’s guide sucks as reviewers. DXOmark is known as a pay for play service. You pay for your scores.

          • Max

            haha dude. good one! just look at the pictures! i nearly wanted to scratch out my eyes looking at those horribly note 8 pictures! did they buy some camera sensors from nokia’s 2000 phones?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85o_x7OoET0&feature=youtu.be

            thank me later! want a good cam? get an iphone 8!

          • JR3

            Doesn’t change the fact..the note 8 has best camera of all time…you will realize that soon enough.

          • Max

            are you somehow mentally challenged or something? the only thing you keep saying is “the note 8 camera is better” yet you have nothing to prove that. i show you videos and comparison pics where it’s crystal clear that the iphone 8 has a better camera and you’ve got nothing but your own opinion.

          • barely_free

            word of advice, never get caught up arguing with an idiot since they are not logical.

          • Barricade

            They are both biased and equally idiotic though.

          • t_linn

            They may both be biased but one is referencing actual photos and comparisons. The other one is simply repeating a mantra, as if saying it makes it true. (To be clear, I’m not implying anything about the quality of the phones in question; only the quality of the arguments.)

          • Seth777ru

            Hi Max.
            It is clear that in Tom’s comparison iPhone 8’s colors are oversaturated with unpleasant skin tones. There is also some oversharpening and too much contrast. Ironically that was the main complaints about Galaxy S8’s camera earlier this year.
            They’re also turned HDR off shooting NY building and did some weird contrast adjustment with Sherri portrait.
            The yellow/red flowers are completely off-focus. It seems that they manually focused on pink flowers with min aperture set in “pro” mode.
            I agree that 8 and 8 Plus cameras are a huge step forward from 7, but cannot agree that it’s generally better than the Note 8. As a photographer I can tell that the Note 8 has better details, more natural colors, better low-light performance, better bokeh.
            Both iPhone’s and Note 8’s cameras are exellent performers though and both are exellent choice if you’re not very interested in photography and don’t want to buy good camera with interchangeable optics.

          • John Lofwire

            agreed iphone 8 is a very good step for camera.
            Difference between the 7 and 8 is like comparing a Samsung S4 with S7 lol.

            Its impressive but not really the best.
            Textures also look a bit strange on the iphone 8.
            Lots of oversharpening make the pictures look unreal..

            That what i hate of samsung S7 and S8 i guess apple copied samsung on that one.

          • Joy Keys

            It doesn’t change the fact, I seen Note 8 has overblown contrast and artificial colours which isn’t true to real-life. iPhone 8 Plus and X are more capable at low-light and true colours accuracy I have ever seen to date, that even HTC U11 can’t match. You need to take off some time and understand what why some prefer Note 8 for brighter photo when iPhone 8 Plus produces more honest color depth.

            Note 8 has the best camera among Android phones, you will truly realize that soon you are comparing other Android or how did you consider Note 8 better than others OEM in the same ecosystem?

          • JR3

            Nope the iPhone overblows thanks

            https://youtu.be/nrx9r4FRn-Q

          • Joy Keys

            You would have to debate with the professional photographers. Clearly, all 3rd party app can capture more details, you probably didn’t try it. I seen this video, clearly, Note 8 adding more colors to the photo which is not the best. Thanks.

          • JR3

            Note 8 clearly wins in all departments here.

            https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

          • JR3

            No they are not. Note 8 is much better.

            https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

          • Joy Keys

            No they are not, iPhone 8+ looks much better with natural colour. It’s the proper settings that counts. I thought B was iPhone. I think you prefer B.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh4S5Jjwzas&feature=related

          • Joy Keys

            No SuperSAF are not. Photo C is much better. I think you like Photo B for greater contrast and loss of details.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh4S5Jjwzas

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQE7lfDbR_Q

          • Anton Zuykov

            “Doesn’t change the fact..the note 8 has best camera of all time”
            It is not a fact. It is your opinion.
            Now, off you go to learn the difference between the two…

          • Tony Nashe

            Mmmm not so sure about that there is always one better

          • JR3

            Watch this video…proves my point note 8 is best

            https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

          • David483

            LOL – OMG – that is serious trolling! Let me paraphrase you: “it doesn’t matter how the actual photos look, the Note 8 has the best camera”. LOL.

          • JR3

            Note 8 does have best camera ever.

            https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

          • Ronald

            I played with the Note 8 and its not better than the U11, LG V30 or the iPhone 8..sorry

          • JR3

            It is better..you keep playing. Note 8 is clearly the best.

            https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

          • Arthur Dent

            Proof? Link or GTFO.

          • JR3
          • JR3
          • krazyfrog

            Why the fuck are you even here then if you think their reviews are paid?

          • EP_2012

            I hate to say this, but it looks like Tom’s guide adjusted those photos. The saturation on the iphone 8 on Tom’s page seems way more than what it actually produces out of the camera – and the Note 8 seems really flat (look at the portrait sample), which is contrary to real world use. Something doesn’t add up with these comparisons. I’d appreciate if these sites posted untouched, original files for us to check out.

        • Anton Zuykov

          Looks like you are mad that Note8 does NOT have the best camera tho. Are you mad bro?

      • ymcpa

        You know, he might be right. The iphone 8 came out today and there is a full review of both the 8 and the 8 plus. The galaxy 8 came out in April and there is no review. The note 8 came out in August and also no review. Looking at all the recent reviews it doesn’t look like they were so busy that they didn’t have time for a review. They were mostly redoing reviews of old phones using their new testing protocol. I would think that testing a new phone would take priority.

      • John Lofwire

        comparison using handpicked picture in wich a device is superior do not make a real comparisons lol.

        DXO was always a paid for review place no matter wich one came on top.

      • GCHQ

        True.

      • Stan Chung

        ouch, I was happy to see Samsung do well with their S7 but seeing Apple step up its game made me happy as well.
        There’s fans of both phones and then there’s the hooligans and butthurt ones from both sides.

        More Android ones from what I can see.

      • Lucidfeuer

        And lucky for Apple, there are completely stupid dumb dumbs like you who never work in a corporation nor touched on PR implications, and would buy the spit sold to you if media told you it was good.

    • LionStone

      The front facing camera on the N8 is a joke, pitiful for the amount of 💰 that thing costs…

    • I am sorry JR3, but you are acting like a TRRIGGERED fanboy. Have you ACTUALLY used Note 8? compared like they did? I doubt it. So STFU. You are allowed to say whatever you want, but I suggest you put aside your bias.

      • JR3

        https://youtu.be/nrx9r4FRn-Q

        Note 8 clearly wins

        • Jsmith8899

          Clearly? The images look nearly identical.

          • JR3

            No they don’t. Note 8 proves my point even more here

            https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

          • Jsmith8899

            The only place the 8 Plus false down is zoomed in and that is because the second camera does not have OIS. Otherwise short of the way the images are color corrected they have an identical image. Unless you think that Samsung has suddenly changed the law of physics amount of light getting to that 12mp (same physical sized sensor) is the same.

      • JR3

        Watch this…note 8 kills the iPhone

        https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

    • GCHQ

      A complete Ugly beast!!!

    • GCHQ

      JR3 : Seems like Samsung does not pay you guys anymore!!!

  • CubanMissiles

    I assume that the iPhone X will perform as the iphone 8plus. I say that because the spec seem identical, but I am wondering if anyone know if we should expect any variation. Thanks!

    • The iPhone X is supposed to have slightly different camera. Like optical image stabilisation on both cameras whereas the iPhone 8 Plus only has it on one of them. Or at least they decided to specifically highlight the fact that iPhone X came with dual optical image stabilisation, and they didn’t mention it on the iPhone 8 Plus. When they described the iPhone X camera they never said anything about the camera being the same as on the iPhone 8 Plus so I expect them to be different in some way or the other.

    • Graham At Snap

      As the review states, they expect the X to perform better: “the X’s wider aperture and its OIS on both cameras should place it on the cutting edge of zoom and portrait performance”

    • The Truth

      Not really. iPhone X’s second camera captures a bit more light and have OIS.

      iPhone X should do even better.

    • dbm

      The iPhone X has a camera system with two improvements over the 8+:
      1) the telephoto lense is f2.4 rather than f2.8
      2) the X has optical image stabilisation on both lenses, whilst the 8+ only has it for the wide angle lense

      • epleguy

        Apple have also said it will have a bigger sensor.

        • SteveHood

          The sensor is the same size as in the iPhone 7.

          http://www.techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/apple-iphone-8-teardown/

          “The wide-angle Sony CIS has a die size of 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2). This compares to a 32.3 mm2 die size for iPhone 7’s wide-angle CIS. We fast-tracked the die photographs for this teardown blog so didn’t record the color filter images today, however we can confirm a 1.22 µm pixel pitch. ”

          “we can confirm a 1.0 µm pixel pitch and apparent hybrid bonding on the Sony Exmor RS telephoto CIS die, as we see on the wide-angle chip. The die size is 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2).”

          • epleguy

            Yes, but the iPhone X will be bigger.

  • SRPat

    What are the sensor sizes?

    • SteveHood

      The same as the iPhone 7.

      http://www.techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/apple-iphone-8-teardown/

      “The wide-angle Sony CIS has a die size of 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2). This compares to a 32.3 mm2 die size for iPhone 7’s wide-angle CIS. We fast-tracked the die photographs for this teardown blog so didn’t record the color filter images today, however we can confirm a 1.22 µm pixel pitch. ”

      “we can confirm a 1.0 µm pixel pitch and apparent hybrid bonding on the Sony Exmor RS telephoto CIS die, as we see on the wide-angle chip. The die size is 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2).”

  • Alpert

    So, I downloaded every full res photo, found something interesting.
    See screenshots below: some pictures captured by i8+ showed the origin is Adobe PS CC….any idea?
    In my experience, only edited photo would show something like this. Don’t get me wrong, I trust DXO but I just one small question here.
    Otherwise, showing 11.0 (iOS version I assume) is correct.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d3d2192409ca475015c59ba0a0f256f011963d875676a4ed7190ba7039d61cd.png
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4196a34a0cff3d7e297545d18341eaa6f6f6ca6f885ff850b7b888953d8626b3.jpg

    • The Truth

      This could be caused by the factors mentioned at the end:
      “The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus record photographs in the DCI-P3 colorspace, which their displays also use. DCI-P3 is newer and larger than the sRGB color space that most devices use and most web browsers assume. So to ensure that the images we used in the review display properly on a wide variety of browsers and devices, we converted the originals from DCI-P3 to sRGB. This can slightly reduce the richness of color in some cases from what you would see when viewing the original images on a DCI-P3-calibrated display with appropriate software. We also captured the original images using the new HEIF (High-Efficiency Image Format), but we then converted them to very high-quality JPEGs for viewing in standard browsers and image editing software.”

      iPhone captures photos in wider color gamut and in HEVC. They had to convert it somehow to be viewable for all.

      • Alpert

        Yes, I saw it. Thanks.
        But it doesn’t explain why only just some of the images got converted. If all photos are captured in DCI-P3 and HEIF, then for better displaying purpose, it should be all converted, I think?
        Does DXO has some sort of rules saying: this one is not OK, need to be converted; meanwhile that one is OK, no need to be converted?

        • Anton Zuykov

          Actually, it depends on what hardware these guys are using to look at images. OS X would handle those color profiles correctly. Windows, on another hand – will not, hence that would require conversion.

        • Good question. The note at the end of the review has been updated to explain this. Basically the test images (used for the scoring) were shot in HEIF & therefore needed to be converted, but some of the comparison images (which are used only for illustration) were shot as JPEGs and could be used without any conversion.

          • Alpert

            Thank you for the info! I read the updated version. It’s much better explained, especially for newbies like me.

    • eemix

      you are 100% right in this. Adobe Photoshop has been used. There is no excuse for passing the photo through any kind of 3rd party software….

      • You mean they should upload HEIC files? Im sure your browser handles that like a charm.

        • eemix

          They could upload at least 1 original, and let us judge… If not through the browser, through a link….
          Now it’s kinda late… Everybody could change the exif…
          I am a little suspicious because in my eyes at least i cannot see too much difference from Pixels and U11 which explain that scores…

          • Anton Zuykov

            “They could upload at least 1 original, and let us judge..”
            On your windows machine that can’t handle color profiles correctly ever? Really?

          • eemix

            What kind of machine can handle a single photo file coming from an iphone? NASA’s?

      • Alpert

        Actually the updated version at the end of the article makes a lot more sense. I understood why they did it, and I accept.

    • Joseph Thipmanee
      • Anton Zuykov

        That is exactly what I thought.

      • Alpert

        Device model doesn’t mean anything. A photo shot on iPhone 8+ after tons of edit steps, in the photo info the device model is still iPhone 8+. Edit won’t modify device model.

  • tipoo2

    Nice to see them step up with larger sensors at last and regain the crown. Though despite a slightly lower score, those Pixel shots all look more gorgeous imo. Both great cameras though which is great.

    How were the autofocus scores of the others?

    • SteveHood

      Unfortunately, the camera sensor is the same size as in the iPhone 7.

      http://www.techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/apple-iphone-8-teardown/

      “The wide-angle Sony CIS has a die size of 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2). This compares to a 32.3 mm2 die size for iPhone 7’s wide-angle CIS. We fast-tracked the die photographs for this teardown blog so didn’t record the color filter images today, however we can confirm a 1.22 µm pixel pitch. ”

      “we can confirm a 1.0 µm pixel pitch and apparent hybrid bonding on the Sony Exmor RS telephoto CIS die, as we see on the wide-angle chip. The die size is 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2).”

  • centrale

    We are waiting for Galaxy Note 8 to be tested.

  • Timi Azeez

    Just one question, you updated all iphones but haven’t even tried the S8, S8+, Note8. What is going on DXO, how did you get the Iphone 8 that just got released done before the Note 8 smh. I still trust your judgement so please don’t play favoritism

    • Samsung hasn’t agreed to pay their “talent fee” for a review.

    • Matthew Langley

      Pretty much how I feel. I really respect dxomark and really am fine if iPhone gains the camera crown for the first time in years (or ever? not sure if they ever topped dxomarks scores), even as an Android fan. I also have issues with fake bokeh effects being their own metric or even really called bokeh. I also question the zoom being rated so different for relatively simple zooms.

      Those are just minor issues overall, the fact the Note 8 was released before the iPhone 8 phones and the iPhones were tested first. I really can’t fathom this. In fact it gets even more odd, when retesting phones the Pixel and latest HTC were retested, the latest iPhones at that time the iPhone 7s were tested, yet the only Samsung tested was an S6 Edge from 2 years ago. Skipping the S7, S8, and Note 8 in release order.

      I really don’t get that, it’s really hard to understand that. In fact it’s hard to understand why they didn’t do more re-tests before launching the new protocol for a better comparison set, but again that is a bit of a minor issues compared to the Note 8 and no Samsung phone in the last two years being tested or re-tested compared to the last gen of iPhones being retested and the new ones being tested before the earlier released Note 8.

      On the minor side again I’m disappointed they don’t have a better way to compare pre dual camera phones to new ones… basically showing that if you don’t care about the dual camera features the Pixel beats the iPhone 8 Plus and isn’t far behind the iPhone 8 (despite being a year old).

      I really want to still respect dxomark, hopefully they’ll catch up on these reviews so we can have a proper comparison… All of this seems to really favor the latest iPhones, again I respect them so hope that’s just a coincidence but I suspect it also might be a way to get more views.

      • StuFaz

        Best comment on here!

  • F.F.

    Bye credibility. So all Android stay the same result as before and all Iphone i’ve higher scores than ever? Apple paid you to change the rules?

    Congrats. You lost credibility, or you can tell that all past years you have been lying to us.
    An S8 equals Iphone 7Plus? Even with a lot of samples how night video and photo are a lot different?

    Nice change of review system 1 week before apple present the iphone 8.

    Well we need now a new brand to do camera tests. First the Oneplus meeting, now apple contributions to change the rules and put them high.

    • kEaNu

      Dude keep going, your tears are delicious, lol

    • Duel

      Actually iPhone 7 score went down.

  • I don’t understand your new protocol and the new results…
    I’m not talking about the iPhone 8 Plus, but all the results.

    How can the result be 96 when we have values like 74/78/64/68 etc…

    The last protocol was very clear and logic !
    What is the equation with the new one ?

    • Nomaned

      New protocol + $$$$$$$$ = 96

      • Anton Zuykov

        again, got any evidence of payments? No? Got any previous history of payments? No?
        Well, Samsung was found in court of the law to have paid trolls online to shit on HTC and Apple.
        How odd…

        • Seth777ru

          Методику изменили за день до презентации 8-к и до сих пор не протестировали ни одного актуального Самсунга. Так что в топе доминирует Эппл. Совпадение? НЕ ДУМАЮ (с)

          PS И ещё эта история с Гикбенчем. Рейтинг в 2 раза выше, чем у 7, а производительность в живых сравнениях “бок о бок” – одинаковая… Кого-то тут натягивают… и хорошо, что этот кто-то не я ))

  • Nomaned

    How much has Apple paid? Lol

    This smelled very badly since they changed the protocol

    • Arthur Dent

      “OMG. Site thinks Apple product is good. Must be paid off.” LOL

    • Anton Zuykov

      Do you have any evidence that shows Apple paying for reviews? If yes, provide them.
      I can only find evidence of Samsung paying, not never it was the case with Apple…
      Yet, many idiots try to claim that Apple does pay someone.

      • Seth777ru

        The best evidence is there are NO actual Samsung reviews. Galaxy S6? Oh, come on!

  • androidinho

    and the galaxy note8 or s8 where are? are you joke? you just died for few months and come back when new iphone are out…casuality?

    • “are you joke?”
      no, but your English is.

      • c’mon iMicca… let’s hear your Italian.

      • Captain Pokemon

        This is a discussion group about image quality on mobile phones and NOT AN ENGLISH CLASS. A**hole!

        • David483

          Using proper English requires that you be in an English Class? Interesting; I never knew that.

          • Lucidfeuer

            Yes because the whole world are native english speaker degenerate cunt.

          • Captain Pokemon

            In a normal setting, English class is where you teach people English grammar and spellings to folks who are learning English language. English may be your first language and please don’t act like a tool…the world doesn’t revolve around you English native speakers.

        • androidinho

          Thank you

    • EP_2012
      • Nozuka

        “In 2017 the DxOMark Mobile test protocol has been updated to cover zoom, bokeh features, very low light performance, motion in the scene and other new test criteria. Image quality testing for this review was still undertaken using the original DxOMark Mobile test protocol from 2012. The results are not directly comparable to the new protocol but this article will still give you a very good idea of the test device’s camera performance.”
        https://www.dxomark.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-mobile-review-high-photo-potential/

        • John Lofwire

          nice excuse.
          Any device that came out in past 6 months need to be tested to the new standard then to have a better comparison.
          This also do not explain the strange scoore as its should be an average of all the test ( 64 out of 100 for iphone by example on texture ) clearly show something off.

        • EP_2012

          Do you know the average for the S8 is about 87-88 out of 100, but the average for the iPhone 8 Plus is 70-75 out of 100. (depending on whether you include zoom and bokeh) or even lower if you include the video scores… yet it got 96/100.

          Come on, you can see a problem here, can’t you?

          • David483

            The problem is that there is no explanation from Dxo about how the individual scores are weighted and factored to achieve the final score. It requires that we trust that they have done so correctly. As stated, you can’t compare old scores and new as the method has changed. Dxo would need to go back and test the previous devices using the new method to provide a new score. The Pixel was retested, as was the iPhone 7 so we can have some comparison points. Hopefully the Samsung devices will get retested as well.

        • Kerul Patel

          Sorry for my bad english.

          Definitely current result is paid by Apple.

          I’ve a proof and Don’t know why this DXO ppl think they are too smart.
          Check the below image, one of the image they have posted in review result is edited by Adobe Photoshop on windows m/c.

          https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/160-2-1.jpg (iPhone 8 Plus Image)
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/477a01c1780a049225131a9510323400ddccbc755b9ab8b82f43e918ea4ecf82.png (iPhone 8 Plus Meta Infomation)

          https://cdn.dxomark.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/160-2.jpg (SONY XZP Image)
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/374c9b8192a84527af2f20bbf0c781902d3bc6875bb64f6660cfa45e5215a4ec.png (XZP Image Meta Information)

          Image shown in review was edited with Adobe Photoshop 2017 on windows m/c also if you check close to open window in image there is nothing so allowing sunlight. While when shoot with Sony XZP there was a bunch of boxes near windows and two people eating on table. Why don’t you took photo in same condition. Also in XZP if you can see kitchen platform it is clear white furniture, while in iPhone 8 plus all furniture and selling seems to be in sepia tone.

          I think all iPhone fans are crazy or they don’t want to accept the reality, that Apple is making them fool.

          • Prime

            A note about image formats for this review: The iPhone 8 and 8 Plus record photographs in the DCI-P3 colorspace, which their displays also use. DCI-P3 is newer and larger than the sRGB color space that most devices use and most web browsers assume. So to ensure that the images we used in the review display properly on a wide variety of browsers and devices, we converted the originals from DCI-P3 to sRGB using Photoshop (which is why the published test photos show Photoshop as the creator). This can slightly reduce the richness of color in some cases from what you would see when viewing the original images on a DCI-P3-calibrated display with appropriate software. We also captured the original images using the new HEIF (High-Efficiency Image Format), but then converted them to very high-quality JPEGs for viewing in standard browsers and image editing software. (HEIF is very similar to JPEG, but provides better compression for similar image quality, so the conversion makes the sample image file sizes larger than they were when shot.) Please note, however, that unlike our test images, some of the comparison photos used in this review were shot in JPEG and used as-is for illustrative purposes, and were not used to compute scores.

            I tot that was clear

          • thenewguy

            Why didn’t you mentioned that in the test? Mentioning it now, sounds like you’re trying to find an excuse when you’re busted.

          • Prime

            I just copy pasted from above, and I read the article yesterday, so yes it was mentioned by them, I guess nobody read it.

          • thenewguy

            It’s not part of the original article. It was added later, when the guy above showed the Photoshop metadata. Notice the “which is why the published test photos show Photoshop as the creator”. So …

          • Prime

            I’m sorry by the time he posted the comment I’ve already read that part a day before. I was assuming he read that addendum to the article. I guess he was busy reading the metadata. My bad, sorry guys.

          • placidus

            Omg… really? Omg can’t believe. Really u don’t know that iPhone 8 have another pic format? Need to be converted to jpg… that’s why it was edited in photoshop. Nobody hiding this 🙂
            Congrats Sherlock 🙂

          • I ☢ Digi

            Have you heard of HEIF?

          • Please read the note at the end of the review. The iPhone test images were converted from HEIF to JPEG in Photoshop so that they could be viewed on the web.

      • nxtiak

        I noticed the same thing, Pixel XL blows the iPhone 8 Plus in all the numbers except Zoom and Bokeh (because it wasn’t tested). https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e3614d2dfcb3e070f81b052504c0f7452b44e8a15c0b2504dae5f4a0310432a.png

        • Joms

          Yep, another proof of iDi*tic changes by DXOMark… Even by looking at the samples here, Pixel is infinitely better than iCrap images.

          • Nomaned

            Yes, buy apple paid more

          • Cristian Petresc

            You are right !

          • realroca

            Hahaha Busted, they better have an explanation for this LOL

          • Money talks, and Apple is obviously throwing money at DXOMark. Anyone with a working eyeball can tell that the Pixel shots above are better than the iPhone 8’s.

        • Albert

          It *was* tested, and your image above is a complete misrepresentation. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42fad570cd45bd7ae071f1817ca7847c4dad09aa1b0f3cb461dc34862aa40ba9.png

          • Dude, don’t bring logic here! These are Android Bois™ giving a site views while simultaneously telling that same site that they’re shills!

          • StuFaz

            That is the newer “retested” scores dude. Note the colour difference in table. Somehow texture, noise and artifacts are now SO much worse!??? What were they looking at before?

          • Worth reading the article explaining the new score, and how testing in each category has been greatly expanded.

          • StuFaz

            Thanks for your comment David. I will read that and hopefully you guys can get around to testing some of the other newer devices. Can you please explain though, how you attain the end score as it’s not an average as it used to be. I feel if this was explained a lot of the annoyance at this new testing and ratings would go away. Have you given different weightings to certain categories, if so, why? Cheers.

          • I’ll pass along a quote attributed to Clement Viard of DxOMark, from his interview with Digital Trends: “The exact score calculation is confidential and the reason we keep it confidential is because we don’t want manufacturers trying to optimize for the score,” says Viard. “We are very aware that the way we design the score formula may influence some choices companies make, but the testing protocol will be exactly the same for every single phone, with all the same objective metrics, real world results, and human grading.” FWIW, even with the older protocol the score calculation was not public.

          • StuFaz

            OK, I get keeping the formula for calculating a score for each category confidential – that makes sense, but not the total score. Doing that just makes the testing look like you can control the end result despite individual scores for each category.

            Previously (under old test) this does seem to be exactly just an average of all the scores. EG: Samsung S8: 89 + 85 + 93 + 92 + 92 + 75 + 87 = 613 / 7 = 87.57 (rounded up to 88)

            Anyhow, look forward to the rest of the retesting! You guys will be bust with many new phones coming out! 🙂

          • Xda pro

            He is a Fanboy apple he live in palo alto, cupertino city, apple paid for this rewiew.
            That’s why it’s confidential

          • I’ll pass along a quote attributed to Clement Viard of DxOMark, from an article in Digital Trends: “The exact score calculation is confidential and the reason we keep it confidential is because we don’t want manufacturers trying to optimize for the score,” says Viard. “We are very aware that the way we design the score formula may influence some choices companies make, but the testing protocol will be exactly the same for every single phone, with all the same objective metrics, real world results, and human grading.”

          • Here is a quote from Clement Viard, of DxOMark, as cited in an article by Digital Trends: “The exact score calculation is confidential and the reason we keep it confidential is because we don’t want manufacturers trying to optimize for the score,” says Viard. “We are very aware that the way we design the score formula may influence some choices companies make, but the testing protocol will be exactly the same for every single phone, with all the same objective metrics, real world results, and human grading.”

      • GCHQ

        Old mobile test protocol

      • Joms

        I agree, something really off of the pocket came out. Must be a hefty amount of benjamin franks… =D

      • scy

        Those bokeh pictures look horrible

        • Jared Gates

          I like how they point out that the Pixel has artifacts, when in fact the 8 PLus has so much noise it looks like a mosaic.

        • Bruce

          Exactly!!!

          I’m looking at the bokeh pictures and going WTF? Every time I look at people raving about bokeh in *any* smartphone camera, I think “just give it a rest”. I’m not expecting DSLR results with the 135L lens or anything, but jeez, say it’s okay for a smartphone and just give it the marks it deserves which should be in single digits.

          And as far as this particular lot is concerned, the Pixel’s all software bokeh is less jarring than the iPhone’s which is all over the place in clumps instead of the relatively smooth Pixel ones.

      • Kitja Thongpon

        S8 i8 Plus
        photo
        DXOMARK MOBLE 88 78
        Autofous 93 > 74
        Texture 92 > 64
        Noise 92 > 68
        Arifacts 75 > 73
        Flash 87 > 84
        Zoom – * 51
        Bokeh – * 55

        • GK

          I quote the guy from below

          “The problem is that there is no explanation from Dxo about how the individual scores are weighted and factored to achieve the final score. It requires that we trust that they have done so correctly. As stated, you can’t compare old scores and new as the method has changed. Dxo would need to go back and test the previous devices using the new method to provide a new score. The Pixel was retested, as was the iPhone 7 so we can have some comparison points. Hopefully the Samsung devices will get retested as well.”
          Read this https://www.dxomark. com/introducing-the-new-dxomark-mobile-test-protocol/

      • GK

        They changed the system though so idk

      • Ákos Fekete

        The scores aren’t off. If you look at the scores from other tests using the new protocol you can see that the final score is not the average of the sub scores. If you look at the pixel or u11 scores you can see, that they get higher ones on the usual stuff and the iphone gets a better score because of the higher zoom and bokeh scores.

        • StuFaz

          It used to be average. Exactly how any test should be. Just look at car shoot outs or digital SLR camera reviews on more reputable websites. But now, who knows… they seem to weight the two new categories more than others – WHY? Why would zoom be more important than colour or exposure and contrast??? It makes no sense. Add all the scores up and divide by 7 (combine new categories into others) and it still doesn’t equal the total score??????

    • GCHQ

      Stay pressed

    • Rehman Ullah Maseed

      Yeh You are right bro………. They Just took money from apple to promote their shit phone with shitty camera. And stupid people all around the world make their opinion wow DXOmark says this then its true its the best camera. Note8 and S8 will kick iphone.

      • Lesley Harrys

        It must be sad, if you can only enjoy your smartphone after first completely shitting on everything else. So, just because you prefer the S8, the iPhone 8 is complete garbage with a shitty camera? Yeah, totally solid logic there. The iPhone 8 breezes past both the S8 and Note 8 in terms of performance, longevity, software updates and internal speakers. The S8 and Note 8, on the other hand, win out in feature set, screen quality, looks and expandable memory. Do those differences make either phone bad? No. Both are great smartphones, both have great camera’s.

        It’s pretty simple: the iPhone 8 Plus will do things faster than the Note 8, but the Note 8 will look a hell of a lot better doing it.

        • Seth777ru

          The only thing that 8 does faster is Geekbench. Watch some “speed tests” of the 7 and 8 – they’re almost identical.
          And so the Note 8 – in some tests it’s faster and has a better RAM management.

          • The Truth

            http://bgr.com/2017/09/22/iphone-8-vs-galaxy-note-8-vs-galaxy-s8-speed-test/

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef7a52d5f36877622c33e849b403429ac3c3ccc855f7ae3d1fd5797c7d97e634.jpg
            Video processing is much much much much faster on iPhone 8.

            You can export and share a movie faster, transcode it to different resolution, play with it in some video editors much faster.

            Everything concerning video is just VISIBLY faster 😉

          • Seth777ru

            Well, I did some research with my S8. Time needed to export 2 min 4K video varies from 1:15 то 2:25 (depends on editor) with Adobe Clip being the slowest. While S8 is obviously slower than iPhone 8, the difference is not so dramatic as Tom’s Hardware claims and I beleive that with best optimized software it could even be less so.

          • The Truth

            Well, software… that is always the case. There are faster apps than Adobe apps but people still use Photoshop, InDesign, etc. 😉

            It doesn’t matter what have you checked. The point is that those 3 were compared by the same software at the same time with the same file with the same amount of effects and/or filters to render.

            I have tested that my old iPhone 6 exports some 4K vides at 3 minutes. What does it tell you? Clearly nothing. Does it mean it’s as powerful as Galaxy Note 8? No, because my procedure wasn’t reproduced on other phones. It’s all relative.

          • Seth777ru

            The software for iOS and Android is not the same, far from it. So techically it’s impossible to correctly compare raw performance with any given task on such a different platforms. Even benchmarks sometimes shows strange results. For example, in AnTuTu iPhone 8 is just 6,6% faster than OnePlus 5, but in Geekbench it’s 55% faster which is not true of course.

            And I can also tell that those comparisons are useless in most cases.
            It would be much more interesting to shoot 2 min 4k video on both phones, edit with best optimized software available for each platform and then export or even upload to Youtube. For the casual consumer it’s much more interesting real-life scenario, isn’t it?

          • LOL

            It is true. Antutu is just a bad benchmark.

          • Seth777ru

            >>Antutu is just a bad benchmark.
            I can tell the same about Geekbench. Besides, real world tests that I seen shows no significant performance increase over iPhone 7. It’s less than 10% which is much closer to AnTuTu results and no way near 2X as Geekbench claims.

          • Michał Ad

            Speed is not only case – quality is more important.

          • Chris Larios

            Ok, so well, do you edit video on your phone? and in 4k? I mean, those are useless things, the only thing that goes good in iphone are benchmarks, but in real life they suck.

          • The Truth

            4K is just an example, many people are involved in video editing on their phones.

            Just any video editor from the AppStore:
            https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/quik-gopro-video-editor/id694164275?mt=8
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2a5e2167fd0848cfb0bd6a192bb48ea2f957255021e770e587248ff5ae85394.png
            And as you can see people do enjoy it. A lot. There are many apps in which you prefer to wait for the outcome 5 seconds and not 30 seconds or 5 minutes instead of 30 minutes.

          • Edan Davey

            The real shame of it is the reason the iPhone 8 does SO well in this test: the iPhone uses GPU acceleration for video encoding whereas the S8+ and Note 8 don’t (not just Samsung’s new phones, this is just how it is on Android). Would be cool to see how much slower the iPhone does it with no hardware acceleration (it’s still going to smoke the Note 8 and S8+ but not as much). Or use a video editor on Android that supports hardware acceleration (which apparently doesn’t exist AFAICT). I’d love to say this isn’t a fair test but the fact is there’s no choice on Android (I don’t think) so it is what it is.

    • SAS MUHD

      Iphone8 plus (left) vs. galaxy S8 (right). S8 got highest individual score. But how final is determine? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da9f0e1deb4360c60c755f93d782f84d108c861a70a8cb8b90de4033cd7836af.jpg

      • Grayson

        They recently changed how the scoring system works and the new scores are not directly comparable to the old scores I think.

        • Elisejenta

          Dont try to inform and educate the trolls. They are not interested in such things 😉

        • Lucidfeuer

          Oh yeah they changed right before the iPhone 8 release in a way that completely advantages Apple and without adjusting other scores…right.

          • GK

            Lucidfeuer the first phone reviewed with the new scoring system was the sony phone.

          • Lucidfeuer

            The XPZ1 that has a low score yet has by far the best camera? This site is fucked, it’s definitive, also of course they’re paid off by Apple, it’s their only option to still continue selling the iPhone 6SSS (that they call 8)

    • Red_Panigale

      The best part of this iPhone season are the crying fandroids. The A11 and the iPhone camera has them confused.

    • Nomaned

      Samsung if no paid fakemark next score note 8 82 points.

      Apple paid for this rewiew, to leave today, if Samsung does not pay no high score

    • Cristian Petresc

      Not only that, but IPhone 8 Plus deserves 6th spot, not the 1st !!! It seems that Apple pay better than all !!!

    • ph00ny
      • GK

        He’s a bit biased with samsung though

        • ph00ny

          He maybe but you can make your own observation from the videos without his comments

          • Prime

            He’s biased but not wrong either. Even he agrees that iPhone have finally caught up to Samsungs low light. which is what iPhones haven’t done for a few years, even with last year specs.

        • Everything in its right place.

          I don’t think so

      • Hustle_Mann

        This video just convinced me to go Galaxy again, I don’t care what these tests say, my eyes just told me something completely different. Side note, The mic on the iphone is pathetic.

        • hp79

          I really want to go Galaxy again, but I can’t stand their TouchWiz junk and all the customization for the worst experience. Glad that iPhone 8 Plus has usable low-light ability now. That’s one thing I liked about S7 Edge besides the SamsungPay.

          • Anonymous

            Download Nova Launcher.

    • Delafuerte

      You are really ridiculous!!! 😂

  • Nomaned

    Iphone best stabilitation than xperia Idxomark?

    https://youtu.be/4g6kewO_hKU

    Lol

    https://youtu.be/KHmn9zPOWys

    • Pepe

      Nomaned on iPhone 8, YES, it has better stabilization. The video you provided is showing iPhone 6 Plus.

      • Nomaned

        Wait versus lol xz1 vs iphone 8 plus lol.

        https://youtu.be/Q0IqoHbp8Rg

        • Eightlaps

          Are you a dumb loser Nomanded? This video is LG vs Sony. Butthurt spoted. Cant take when crapdroids lose badly to Apple

  • Nomaned

    New protocol= apple protocol

  • Alex Norris

    And Iphone X will takes 102 )))

  • Duel

    Look all this crying from Android users because iPhone camera is superior to anything else. Dx0mark has been like a bible for Android boys because iPhone camera wasn’t at in top places, and now when it’s number one all the whining and excuses start coming.

    • LionStone

      It’s video capabilities are equal to the Pixel and HTC U11, sooo? New Pixels and new U11 coming soon…

      • Anton Zuykov

        “sooo? New Pixels and new U11 coming soon.”
        Sooo, we talk about that when it ACTUALLY COMES.

        • John Lofwire

          Soo you idiot want to stop ppl free speech?

          • GK

            Why is free speech involved here? He’s just saying we should talk about it when it actually exists

          • John Lofwire

            Go read what free speech mean. Its mean we can talk about anything at any time as long as its not hate speech (racism ect)

        • LionStone

          Yep, iphone camera praise will be short-lived hah!!

    • EP_2012

      The S8 outclassed the iphone 8 Plus in every category (some by 20-30 points), yet it scored 6 points lower overall.

      Both Android and iOS users should be complaining about the methodology and scoring used.

      • Duel

        What part didn’t you get from the fact that they changed their test? There’s no point to compare old with new (which you are currently doing), don’t worry we are going go get new scores for S8 too and it won’t beat 8 plus, not even google pixel or htc u11 just like it didn’t earlier.

        • John Lofwire

          To do thing correctly they should had tested the 8 and 8 plus with the old standard.
          then retest all newer model ( 6 months or less ) with new standard.

          The way they did it make it look like paid for review sorry.

        • EP_2012

          I’m not talking about old methodology vs. new here. I’m talking about how does a phone that was getting scores in the 90’s end up with an an 88 overall score, and one that averaged in the 70’s end up with 96?

          Did they just make up a number at the end for more views? The “best smartphone camera ever tested” sounds like a great headline until you realize it’s not.

          • Yep, good point. How does the overall score end up being higher than any of the individual attribute scores? Makes no sense.

      • GCHQ

        The S8: Ringing visible= oversharpened pictures.

      • GK
    • John Lofwire

      So you do not see how the scoore seem off? you iphone lover are really strange.

      • Duel

        You are comparing old test with new, dumb! Just wait and they will test S8 too with new test.

        • John Lofwire

          They should had tested it using old method.

          Then test all 6 months and less old device with new method.

          The timing of this new method is really fishy and the way tech review website compare both old and new scoore dont help the situation.

          • Duel

            Why don’t stop this childish nonsense and look the photos? Here is Note 8 vs iPhone 8 plus camera comparison, it wasn’t even close https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-vs-galaxy-note-8-camera-shootout,review-4685.html those photos coming from iPhone 8 plus looks amazing.

          • John Lofwire

            More hand picked pictures.

            The real test will be blind test at GSM arena they proven again and again they are impartial.

            Tomsguide is usually pro apple.

          • Duel

            blind test? Seriously? 95% of people who do blind test doesn’t have any clue what photo looks right, most choose oversatured colours because they just look good for many, even in reality the colours are way off. With iPhone 8 Apple is also going to this direction but still keeping those natural colours. Thats exactly why they are now best phone cameras.

          • John Lofwire

            Thats why Pixel won most blind test over Samsung S7 ( and S7 oversaturate the colors not the pixel ) Yes its make perfect sens lol.

            I hate apple troll like you here i blocked ya be easier on both our brain.

          • Seth777ru

            >>>95% of people who do blind test doesn’t have any clue what photo looks right
            Sure. But they PAY for what looks best for them. Not PAID. Feel the difference.

          • Steve

            same with cnet. it should be called inet

    • GCHQ

      True

    • D. Van Nostrand

      Duel, do you realize this DXO tests are practically just one entity’s opinion? They don’t use the same criteria as others to judge cameras …phone cameras at least.

    • danhammack

      You can only state it is superior to anything else, if everything else has been tested. The Note 8 for example has not been tested and has similar cameras.

    • Steve

      i use android. my camera beats the iPhone by miles

  • Chris

    So you are testing a brand new model to the old Pixel? How about a fair comparison, test it against a Note 8, if you are truly unbiased you would have done this since both phones came out around the same time and claim to have great cameras.

    • Is the new Pixel out yet? No, no it’s not.

  • Never Trust Hillary

    How convenient for iphone 8 that DxOMark changes its testing methodology just in time for the iphone 8’s release. Amazing how fast the iphone 8/8+ got reviews when Note 8 has been available for MUCH LONGER. How big was the check from Apple? Love the cherry-picked data in this article to prop up iphone 8 sales.

    • Duel

      It’s so funny to read comments like this, just look the photos yourself and don’t be so blind. For example here’s Note 8 vs 8 plus photo comparison, and no it wasn’t even close https://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-8-vs-galaxy-note-8-camera-shootout,review-4685.html iPhone camera is from different level. Super sharp, very vibrant, great contrast, natural colours, not burnout skyes etc.

      They changed the test because we see more and more dual cameras in the market, so they had to tweak it to make those count too.

      • Seth777ru

        >>>not burnout skyes
        They manually turned off HDR on Note 8.
        Sorry, but it’s the only way to get such a horrible shot on 2017 Samsung’s flagship device.

  • eemix

    Correct me if i am wrong, but 92/94 scores, means that iphones 8/8+ are like DSLRs comparing even with Pixel and U11. 4 points in DXOMARK scale is a huge difference…
    I bet Apple called them, telling to the author, “We asked for a “special” treatment/review but you beep… it….”

  • i1776

    This is BS. The Pixel camera still blows away the iPhone 8+. How could you dare conclude the iPhone wins over a year old phone?

  • M4ENY

    Gotta love how iphone 7 plus photos all the sudden look like crap … LMAO
    Do these guys purposely take photos badly with last gen phones or what lol

  • kaSZa

    Forget Bokeh Score & Flash , Compare it with Pixel’s Samples and decide !

  • Northern Libtard

    Don’t forget…the new iPhone 8 has HDR on all the time. Therefore, if you put HDR on for iPhone 7 Plus Portraits, the results are much closer to iPhone 8 Plus Portraits.

  • EP_2012

    Come on. Where’s the Note 8 review?

  • Andrew Huang

    Great phone camera review. This is the first time Apple has better camera than Android phone 🙂

    • PAYUT IOAI

      No way

  • Maicon Bruisma

    Google Pixel is amazing. Even being older still manages to be better on video, and in my opinion it was also better in most of the photos.

  • Daniel R. Pinheiro

    I just have one question… Do you guys test these cameras ONLY at the automatic shot? Because if you do, then we have unfair tests.
    If the DXOMark is The reference for image quality, then you must go professional and extract the best from a device. That means you must adjust the ISO, WB, exposure bias, exposure time, etc, for better results of any smartphone you guys test…

    Now, if some smartphones do not have these settings to manage, this is a lucklessness, unfortunately (of the device). Remember: This site is a reference for image quality. So you must be professional…

    • Vitali

      You got a great point here actually. I think they should make 2 overall scores, auto mode score and manual-settings score. That would be great.. But they will never make it because iphones won’t get any manual score. Haha

    • hanharal

      iPhone supports manual control of exposure, focus, ISO, shutter speed and white balance. It also has a RAW format.

  • Matthea

    Typical marketing payola-driven BS stupidity again from DXOMark, just like their lens & sensor dynamic range & ISO tests for DSLRs. crApple hypePhones don’t have the “best camera” they have the “best” *JPEG processing*, “best” here meaning they were the closest to meeting arbitrary standards set by DXOMark for their pseudo-scientific reviews. After all, crApple, like most other phone manufacturers, do not make their own camera modules, they just buy them from Sony and other image sensor manufacturers like Samsung, Toshiba, etc. So the differences between phones come down to what and how the phone manufacturers tune and tweak their post-capture JPEG image processing and MPEG video processing. Also, crApple, unlike other phone manufacturers, can’t even save images in RAW or DNG, so how can DXOMark say it has the “best camera”, when it’s just comparing post-processed JPEGs? The most accurate statement from DXOMark therefore should be: “crApple met our arbitrary JPEG processing expectations best”. That’s all. But I suppose this is par for the course for this discredited company, the same one who arbitrarily determined that downsized 8MP images are the best way to compare dynamic range & high ISO of DSLR sensors, that you can get more than 14-stops of dynamic range from 14-bit RAW images, that the Canon 50mm lens is sharper than their 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II, etc. Nobody who actually shoots photos as an enthusiast or professional should take DXOMark tests seriously. What a laugh. It seems pretty clear that the companies who subscribe to DXOMark always seems to get the best arbitrarily-determined scores. Couple that with the typical tech-ignorant lamestream media ejaculating all over any crApple iProduct, and you have this expected outcome all the time.

    Bottomline: these test are meaningless because DXOMark is just comparing JPEGs coming from the same Sony camera modules.

    • Easily_Enraged

      Does your Aspergers go to ten or eleven?

      • Matthea

        I am sorry you are a typical tech-ignorant crApple iFan-ghey. The ones who are easily fooled by payola-driven pseudo-scientific claptrap that is DXO. We DSLR shooters have long known the laughably arbitrary and changeable criteria used by DXO in their various tests. They don’t even explain until now how they come up with their final rating number! Haha. BS. crApple can never have the “best camera” since DXOMark isn’t testing those, they are merely testing post-processed JPEGs! If you can’t understand that basic fact, then you are a moronic imbecile.

        • Easily_Enraged

          Ha ha, that’s some next level Rainman sh!t right there

          • ConCor

            Its called arguments, imbred redneck

          • Easily_Enraged

            It’s called putting your mental disorder on display. And you guys posting these ridiculous comments absolutely have one. You’re not arguing. This toxic comment section is filled with you IT guys who own cameras. I get it, you’re supposed to hate Apple. It’s what IT guys who bought cameras do. I bet even Apple’s own IT guys are secretly loathing themselves. Photographers and cinematographers don’t worry themselves with any of this. It’s funny to see people get so worked up about it though. I mean, seriously… crApple?

          • ph00ny

            Thanks for putting your mental disorder on display

          • Easily_Enraged

            You betcha, Aspie

      • Lucidfeuer

        If we were in a street or bar and heard you, I would bitchslap the fuck out of your face with no warning. Bigoted fuck.

        • Easily_Enraged

          Ha ha, as if you guys were capable of socializing. I’m sure that you dream of confronting me in a dark alley with your ninja sword after a full day of chopping water bottles in half for the benefit of your fellow nerds

          • Lucidfeuer

            No, anywhere, this is so fucked-up almost pedophile-like level to mock autism that I’d bitchslap you (not manslap you, you’re not a man) without a second of hesitation. Someone will.

          • Easily_Enraged

            How does diddling kids relate in any way to your lack of social skills? How did you reach that? Also, how would you catch me? Does your Rascal scooter reach 10 MPH?

  • Steve

    it’s a shame no one is buying it. 2 people queued outside the glasgow store.

    • Duel

      Tens of millions going to buy that

      • Steve

        a fool and his money are easily parted.. i bought 2 new phones and a mint but used Sony rx100 camera , combined price,for less than the price of the iPhone 8..i have the camera that pummels the iPhones camera into the ground.
        Apple couldn’t even give the free food away according to cnet..

      • Seth777ru

        That’s a really bad prediction for a company that sells hundreds of millions normally )))

        • Duel

          Wait what iPhone model have sold hundreds of millions?!?!?!?!

          • Seth777ru

            iPhone 6 – 220 million sold.

            Each year Apple sells 200+ million iPhones.

          • Duel

            Maybe you forgot but Apple biggest phone for this year isn’t iPhone 8.

          • Seth777ru

            Now we’re at the beginning of this thread: “it’s a shame no one is buying the iPhone 8”

  • Wheeler

    I couldn’t help but notice the phone comparisons are with two android phones nearly a year old. I would like to see the same comparisons with new android phones, like the Note8, Pixel2, and V30 in the next month or two.

    • Duel
      • Seth777ru

        Read the comments of the actual Note 8 owners.
        It’s VERY easy to change colors or adjust contrast to make one of the cameras look better. It’s WAY more harder to hide noise and poor low-light performance, so there is no low-light photos in TG article…

        • Duel

          Don’t worry, trust me, you will going to see a lot camera comparisons this and next month, my feeling is that iPhone wins them, iv seen many iPhone 8 plus photos and as i am a mobile photographer, i see kind of photos which i haven’t seen before. I thought we had reached the limits already, but was surprised how much those cameras improved.

          Apple is doing pretty big things with their A11 chip for photography

          • Seth777ru

            I agree that 8’s camera system is a huge step forward for Apple. For the past 2 years an iPhones were amongst the worst in terms of picture quality compared with flagship Android devices.

            We’ll see soon enough.

          • PAYUT IOAI

            อ้างจังเนอะมึง หน้าด้านชิปหาย ติ่ง iphone ดิ้นเชียวนะ “my feeling is that iphone win them” hahahahahahahaha please go back school and re~study. So buff
            You sure?? You are photography. So fake . how much apple pay for you guy ?

  • Nomaned

    Money money money money….

  • nxtiak

    This test is lame. They added two tests, Zoom and Bokeh. That added to the score.
    But if you look at the Pixel XL scores, it blows away the iPhone 8 Plus in all categories.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e3614d2dfcb3e070f81b052504c0f7452b44e8a15c0b2504dae5f4a0310432a.png

    • If you read the article that explains the differences between the old and new scores you’ll see there were many other changes/additions as well, and how they impact all the sub-scores. Those include additional lower light tests, motion in more scenes, and more HDR targets. So you can’t compare sub-scores between old and new.

    • Duel

      Why you compare old and new scores when there’s already new scores for pixel?

    • Here’s a great read explaining how they didn’t just add tests, they also were more thorough as well.

      https://www.dxomark.com/analysis-comparing-original-updated-dxomark-mobile-test-protocols/

      It’s a long read, but worth it if you want to see the details.

  • Logical Error

    the overall composite score of 94 seems not correct.
    (96+89) /2 makes it 92.5

  • Rob Lewis

    What is the mm’s of the wide angle camera? Thanks.

    • Prime

      28

  • JosAlpha

    Foliage looks pretty bad in iPhone 8 and Apple still have a water painting look to its photos when one looks closer, compared to the Pixel which looks way more natural when one zooms in, better detail too. So yes the sensor may be wow, but the processing is still a bit of a miss, heavy NR even at base iso and that horrid water painting effect when zooming in a bit, though most will be happy on their phone screens, but on a decent size monitor the iPhone 8 photos resemble mush… was hoping Apple would sort out the processing but not yet it seems. see more of the problem on the links in this thread https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4203540?page=2#forum-post-60150646

  • GCHQ

    “This can slightly reduce the richness of color in some cases from what you would see when viewing the original images on a DCI-P3-calibrated display”

    Pictures are even better with a DCI-P3 calibrated display.

  • Thiago Datto

    kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

  • Duel

    Here’s lot of photos taken with 8 plus and more coming all the time, https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/ShotoniPhone8Plus/ one word, stunning

    It’s just crazy how good these phone cameras has become

  • Rehman Ullah Maseed

    Its Fake Cuz apple paid them to promote their shit iphone with shitty camera. LOL the Best camera on earth My AsS’

  • Prime

    Calm your horses. Samsung and LG haven’t been retested, so patience. They might get higher scores, maybe 100, and there’s always the pixel 2 soon.

    Anyway very impressed with those set of photos here, question, how easy is it to nail the portrait look, how many hit and miss? Very important, and also I am eagerly waiting to see the new ipx portrait selfie and beta portrait lighting come out of beta, compared to real studio light boxes. I’m wondering if the true depth Kinect sensor helps further to differentiate the foreground from background. The 8 plus really improved a lot on the 7 plus, that phone looks really bad now. Even with the same f2.8 56mm no VR lens. Now the x and note 8 will be very interesting. iPhones has finally caught up in photo quality, mostly anyway.

    Especially like the portrait photo in the saloon, could have fooled me. And DXO your office pantry looks amazing, on a small screen I tot it was a 3D rendering, but nobody put no smoking signs in renderings, could have fooled me again.

  • Matthea

    Testing post-capture processed JPEG images. And yet DXO proclaims it to be a “phone camera test”. LOL. And until now they still don’t show how the final rating score is derived from the individual testing scores, it’s clearly not an average of the numbers. Typical DXO payola-driven invented numbers from arbitrarily-set “tests”.

  • oplix

    I don’t understand. Doesn’t the iphone 8 have phase detection auto focus? why is there blur on the hand wave?

  • Muslimalbanian

    ”Bättre” är hur individen själv uppfattar det. Samma sak med ”Snygg kille” eller ”Snygg tjej” där individen själv avgör vem som är snygg eller vacker.
    Enligt bilderna man fick se här från testet så tyckte jag olika bilder tagna av olika smartmobiler.

  • Tiwi

    it seems that apple this year paid someone more than past years 😀

  • dimsum888

    Google pixl is better.

  • Ebubekir Özbek

    Money money money

  • Mazak

    Hahaha are you kidding DXOMARK?
    You can see that Pixels is much better than the Iphone 8 Plus.
    Below Images from your test. Iphone 8Plus on the left, pixels on the right.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a5c28386f0b053c0f8c3a25e2c4b6a87ac307361b3a05206c0e7371e072a5c98.jpg

    • Duel

      No the photo overall looks better from 8 plus, no-one looks photos like this, zooming them with magnify glass i mean.

      • Mazak

        perhaps.
        But these are tests to investigate the possibilities of these phones. Besides, it can be seen that the DXOmark score is not reliable.

  • SteMa

    last of the noise comparison: the ip8 image clearly has more light on the face
    zoom test: “However, the same scene with the subject waving his hand shows that the 8 Plus hasn’t addressed the resulting motion blur.” WTF??? so they didn’t solve the issue that less light needs slower shutter speeds? WOW! How dare they?! Or you meant that it’s not optically stabilized? If so, how on earth would you think that waving a hand is a good scenario?
    I don’t even want to mention the scoring which others stated. If you do a different scoring, do a rank with the old method and make a new ranking for the newly tested. It’s like they announce that 100m dash is from now on only 60m. Holy sh*t! NEW RECORD!

  • Mihai

    But where is Note 8 or LG V30?

  • Martin Jeřábek

    Lg V30 destroy iShit 8.

  • Gieffe22

    This review is a joke, see the photos at natural resolution (mean 100% and not a post it web view like you use in most image used here) and boom, this is (like iphone 7) one of the worst quality camera on the earth in this moment. Oil painting everywhere, absolutly not natural, orange cast basically all over all the shots, aliasing caused by bad noise reduction, and low color accuracy on low light (i prefer a crominance noise most than a sepia like photo).

    Dxo, i don’t know which problems you have when review iphone, but this is BY FAR an insult for every photo lovers and just an abuse of your name of “specialized photography site”.

    JOKE. Seriously. I’m sorry for my bad english but is not my native language.

    You want to be serious? tell the truth, and much better, use a compare tool with 100% views of all smartphone like gsmarena do. All the rest are just lies.

    • Duel

      So bitter 😀 8 plus photos look amazing, just accept it

      • Lucidfeuer

        Stupid extreme degenerate Fapple inbred like you still exist in 2018? Damn never out of stupidity!

        • GK

          Lucidfeuer seriously? Fapple? It just shows you’re unable to communicate in anyway but insults. This isn’t even a debate on the camera anymore!

          • Lucidfeuer

            It STILL is, and WAY more!

  • Shubham Khamaru

    at last, apple leads in the camera segment also !!! Congrats apple, keep it up !!!

  • VanZoo

    A lot of troll here ! You don’t accept compliments on Iphone

  • prokakavip

    Never believe in DXOmax anymore, because your friends are too blatant

  • Martin Jeřábek

    Lg V30 destroy iphone8

    • Nomaned

      Lg v 30 in dxomark 84 , lg no paid

      • Martin Jeřábek

        Lg V30 no test here. But G6.

  • Waiting for Note8 and upcoming Pixel 2 & iPhone 10 reviews then we will have real comparison. For now only thing that’s clear is that it’s much better camera(which it should be imo!) than last years apple cameras.

  • Sic

    You changed your score method, you left behind other interesting devices (already launched on the consumer market) and u give a senseless overall score (And not the resume of alla the single scores) to an Apple device, who nobody will buy anyway, because it is born old. I call this “loss of credibility”. And i am really sad about this. I want to speak with your boss. Tim, are u there?

  • GK
  • Genaro Lopez

    DXOMARK- You guys should really stop sucking Apple’s dick…Pixel’s Bokeh picture looks a lot better than the 8 Plus’. Oh, and it’s iPhone 8 Plus’, not Plus’s…know your orthography…

  • Dave Foster

    Its crazy to see all the conspiracy theories when one of these come out. No, Apple didn’t pay them and they aren’t fan boys of Apple. Remember, Androids were sitting on top 3 days ago…sheeeesh. For now, Apple has the best cameras in well lit scenes. In two weeks I’m sure the Pixel 2 will be sitting on top.

    For me, I like the wider angle camera on the Note 8

    • Prime

      That’s right, I wonder why people are so angry over nothing. It’s not like the Note 8 and Pixel won’t top the scores soon. I’m just glad apple caught up much, and that’s the 700/800 dollar one.

  • Mpj

    the camera of my Galaxy s6, by day, makes the most beautiful photos of the iPhone 8 and pixels

  • Nomaned

    Fakemark After score iphone 8 with 94 points and changing the protocol.

    http://media.tumblr.com/77c6846159b875d3f0e1c194c42dc353/tumblr_inline_ml2d1w68c01qz4rgp.gif

  • JR3

    And this is why DXOmark is falsified…Note 8 wins in every area here…..

    https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

  • Harris T. Hưng

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwnSCjyhKuU

    How much Apple pay for you guy?
    “The best smartphone camera we’ve ever tested” =]]

  • hanyoukimura

    While it is an impressive camera and a big improvement over the 7, I don’t see how you guys can look at the Pixel comparisons and claim the IPhone 8/Plus do a better job with bokeh.

    • Prime

      At first blush I tot so too. I went to see the full image. The pixel does have more errors and stronger contrast to mask the portrait.

      • Technology

        Yes but what is on focus on the iPhone is complete garbage though so the portrait mode which is suppose to sublimate what is on focus.
        Ridiculous right?

  • Steve Bingham

    Now I am confused . . . maybe. The HTC U11 got a 74 in texture (detail) and the iPhone 8 plus got a 64. MUCH worse. As detail is very important to landscape photographers, like the author of the article, why is the iPhone 8 Plus a better phone for landscapes? This tends to pretty much invalidate the new testing methods. Both these scores were pulled from the new testing regime – whatever that is. Without weighting scores the test is pretty much meaningless. As a retired (and successful) photography pro of some 50 years I am even more doubtful of the new testing.

    • Yes, the new scoring is seriously flawed when the overall rating is much higher than the individual attribute scores. How does that make any sense? It is also biased towards certain phones by including zoom in it (bokeh is ok from a photography point of view but not zoom). A camera with high zoom (2x now but maybe 5x in a few years) will automatically beat a normal camera or one that focuses on wide angle even if image quality on the non-zoom is way better.

      Image quality is the most important thing to photography (not zoom or some other feature). The more this site values other attributes at the expense of image quality, the less of a camera-focuses site it becomes.

  • Guido Imbimbo

    How can it be 96 of every scores if all the scores are under it? Are the seriously? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8e9d6f7b17b2faec8d301ed71de3524af3633b2a6904011ef751deb95e77baf1.png

  • Timothy Cohen

    No one cares of the quality of your pictures if it’s to take your food, your dog or your grandmother in picture. All of you cannot even tell the differences unless you compare them side by side.
    Samsung paid for it, Apple paid for it, Google paid for it, everyone is paying for it and retouching pictures, that’s how marketing works.
    Your phone is doing a task 0,05 second faster? GREAT! That’s life changing! I am sure most of you are using their phone for Snapchat, Instagram and WhatsApp only… Oh sorry, I forgot Candy Crush…
    Stop blubbering and get a life instead of ruining mine with your stupid comments. It’s like kids debating about who has the bigger d*ick… Stupid retards.

  • John D Styring

    Well sat tonight taking photos with my iPhone 8 plus, Samsung Note 8 and HTC u11 and have been taking photos this afternoon and I can honestly say the HTC u11 is the most accurate to real view and detailed camera of the three, Don’t believe the hype until tested for yourself the iPhone is not at the same level as the HTC and Samsung,

  • 4K UHD ING

    why everybody care about it !!! juste waiiting for pixel xl 2 to destroy and kill the iphone 8 plus, iphone x and

  • Mehmet

    Excuse me, but as i can see, even google pixel fotos seem much more better than iphone 8 plus. Therefore how can u say that best smart phone camera we tested…??
    If u could dare, then just compare iphone 8 plus fotos with Huawei P10 Plus fotos.. I’m sure that P10 Plus fotos will squeeze iphone fotos.. But i think u ll not test it, ’cause this page is obviously a iphone fan..

  • jager a becher

    iPhone 8 Plus photos are taken on Nikon DSLR, it is not real iPhone 8 Plus photos.

  • Dan Turano

    Personally the bokah pixel shot is my favorite, photos are very subjective. I feel like it would expected to beat the one year old pixel I have not seen it looked into the HTC but personally I have tested the older 7 plus portrait mode and love it. I own a pixel XL and s8+. The user plays a role as well. Wish the pXL 2 would have 3 cameras but I can’t complain I prefer the pixel XL over my s8+ both solo lens devices. Starting to question dxo grade. What will the iPhone x come in at? Or pixel 2? I know they don’t have a dog in the fight but each phone has it’s edge I like pixels software edge I see it over my s8+ I use both camera apps on my s8+ Google and Samsung and on pixel only the stock camera app, love the lens blur.

  • rebirthofcool

    iphone 8 & 8+ is actually the perfection of both 4.7 and 5.5 form factors that apple introduced from the iphone 6 & 6+

  • Nomaned

    Xzp destroy of moment front camera iphone 8 plus.
    Min 8:00 this video xzp Humilla front camera iphone 8 the best camera of fakedxomark. Lol

    https://youtu.be/vtVfffQFiTE

  • Nick Svircev

    Google Pixel is infinitely superior to iPhones tested here.

  • Nick Svircev

    It would be nice to see Note 8 vs. Google Pixel test/comparison….

  • Adam Williams

    For those interested in an unbiased camera comparison check out SuperSaf TV https://youtu.be/bwnSCjyhKuU

  • Uzair Miz

    is it only me that noticed that the pixel did better in almost every shot

  • impaulcmartin

    Just as a clarifying point. Bokeh is the way a lens renders out of focus points of light, not to be confused with depth of field, which is the difference in focus between foreground and background. If you’re going to have any authority in reviewing cameras, you really need to know the difference.

    • If you’re speaking about the name of the category, it had to be named something. Like many of the other categories, it includes a number of different tests. In this case it includes the evaluation of generalized depth effects, specific portrait effects, and Bokeh, for example. That is explained in the articles announcing the new protocol, fwiw. If you’re just being insulting, that’s a shame.

  • Matthew Langley

    I still don’t get why a fake bokeh effect is given it’s own category in mobile testing. It’s a gimmick and a pretty lame one at that. Also happens to completely weight the end score towards Apple giving a really bad impression of the more useful metrics of a smartphone camera to compare.

    • Duel

      Except regular iPhone 8 don’t have those and yet that phone is in place two, but hey atleast you tried!

      • Matthew Langley

        You realize you didn’t respond to my point at all. Your agenda is clear, on the other hand I think if Apple finally put out a superior camera phone it should get credit for it (something they haven’t done in many years). At least you tried to pigeon hole my very specific and valid point to dismiss it.

        Further both the iPhone 8 and the Google Pixel retest did indeed get zoom and bokeh scores, apparently based on digital zoom and natural bokeh. they both almost interchange the scores for the bokeh and zoom inversed.

        The fake bokeh that boosts up this iPhone 8 Plus score is ridiculous… I’m sorry but fake bokeh should not be rated so highly. Additionally I question how valid a slight zoom should be weighted so much. At least that makes a bit more sense than fake bokeh however.

        If you compare the iPhone 8 to the Google Pixel (or the iPhone 8 plus minus zoom and bokeh) you’ll see pretty close competitors. Keep in mind this is comparing the bleeding edge Apple phone to a year old Pixel. The Pixel actually wins most categories though takes a major point loss in artifacts. The loss in artifacts completely explains the iPhone 8 win. Here are the score advantages for the iPhone 8 in each category, basically the iPhone 8 scores minus the pixel scores

        E & C -1
        Color -3
        Autofocus -15
        Texture -5
        Noise 4
        Artifacts 33
        Flash 0
        Zoom 7
        Bokeh -5

        As you can see the Pixel does better in Exposure & Contrast, Color, way better in autofocus, better in Texture, worse in Noise, far worse in Artifacts, equal in Flash, better in Zoom, and worse in Bokeh.

        The same using the iPhone 8 plus, again the iPhone 8 scores minus the pixel scores

        E & C -1
        Color -2
        Autofocus -24
        Texture -6
        Noise 3
        Artifacts 23
        Flash 3
        Zoom 27
        Bokeh 23

        Again we see the Google win in Exposure & Contrast, Color, Texture… it actually beats the iPhone 8 Plus in autofocus even more. Though the iPhone 8 Plus wins a bit in Noise and Flash, a big win again in Artifacts, and the biggest wins in Zoom and Bokeh.

        For comparison here are the point totals for all of these

        iPhone 8: 603
        iPhone 8 without Zoom and Bokeh: 547
        dxomark photo score: 93

        iPhone 8 Plus: 634
        iPhone 8 Plus without Zoom and Bokeh: 530
        dxomark photo score: 96

        Google Pixel: 588
        Google Pixel without Zoom and Bokeh: 534
        dxomark photo score: 90

        All of these comparisons have been for Photo only, haven’t looked at video, can do your own comparison there if you want.

        So you see the iPhone 8 beats the Pixel slightly a little in both scores… the iPhone 8 Plus takes the biggest lead only due to Zoom and Bokeh but without those actually loses to both the Pixel and iPhone 8.

        How those all weigh into the finals score is a bit of a mystery, it’s mostly equal weighting it seems but not quite, if you divide the final photo score by total points you get these values, basically how many final score each point is worth:

        iPhone 8: 0.1542288557
        iPhone 8 Plus: 0.1514195584
        Google Pixel: 0.1530612245

        Basically the iPhone 8 Plus points are worth a bit less towards the final score, the Google Pixel are worth a tiny bit more, and the iPhone 8 Plus points are worth the largest amount towards final score. This might suggest Zoom and Bokeh are slightly down weighted… though clearly the points where the iPhone 8 win are worth a bit more than where the Pixel wins.

        So take that all as you will… I stand by fake boken being a ridiculous metric. I also question the value of the Zoom metric considering how low zooms are in phones. Maybe this one will grow into itself.

        What also is worthy of question is why the new iPhone 8 phones got tested before the Samsung Galaxy S8 or Note 8 phones got re-tested. Especially the Note 8 which has comparable dual cameras and has already been released? Clearly that should have been re-tested before this due to release day and setting a baseline comparison against the iPhone 7 and then the now later released iPhone 8.

        I’m guessing testing the iPhone 8 first gives you more clicks though and without the Note 8 it certainly gives the iPhone 8 Plus a bigger lead than it likely will have (if it even beats the Note 8) without the Note 8. Probably getting more iPhone viewers/readers and less Apple fanboy disdain. Of course this is drawing the ire of the Android fanboys.

        Some of that ire seems justified considering the points just given.

  • Delafuerte

    The new standards have been described on 11 September; the new iPhone has been presented on 12 September.
    How the they could do it to push the iPhone 8 first, kinda morons?!?!

    • Technology

      Oh you don’t see how?

  • Paul Holstein

    Virtually any phone will take a decent photo in the daylight. The only reasons I still carry a DSLR are for low light photography and telephoto capabilities.
    Cell phones simply can’t even compare to a DSLR in those regards. I’m not a professional so most of my shots are of family and events which are often held indoors with lots of movement and low lighting.

  • Delafuerte

    Poor fandroid, so mortified reading these results!
    :-))))

  • Jun Xian

    No doubt the HDR improved on ip8 but putting a single cam phone into zoom category seems not fair since it is testing the capability of the second lens on the phone. It should be only tested with 2 lenses phone.

    The “bokeh” scores 55 from artificial blur and it was done by second lens data so is this considered as “real” bokeh capability of a lens/sensor? seriously? my photoshop scores 200 then 🙂

  • Michalis

    NOTE 8 is the better smartphone camera and destroys iPhone especially at the noise in low light situation……..you are DXO, you should knew that before publish this review……

  • Caméléo

    En attendant les test des LG G6, LG V30, Samsung Note 8, etc…

  • Lucidfeuer

    Bunch of corrupted fucks alongside the pseudo “most satisfied customer” bullshit ratings. Point this out every-time you see medias referencing to DXOMark…this is one of the worst kind of corruption and manipulation.

  • Beomchul Shin

    Damn. You must have been paid by Apple. The average of individual scores is 70. How could it be turned out like 96? 😂😂

    • Ari Loxha

      Not necessarily, there is always a chance that somebody skipped the classes of basic math…and took the philosophy classes instead on the theme of paradox…

  • White Willie

    DXOMARK has been bought over. It is no longer neutral and trust worthy to me.

    Shame shame!

  • Rahmat tri hariadi

    really iphone 8+ the best smartphone?are u kidding me.. how about note 8 or huawei p10 plus

  • SSampson

    And yet…. at the end of the day, you still have a small piece of glass with some algorithms giving you a slightly better lousy picture….. not to mention the simple fact that it seems other phones tested actually get better scores…. ergo they have even BETTER lousy pictures….. I guess this is what you call a sponsor review…. or at least a fanboy review….. of course there is also limited reference to the photo taken….. might I suggest attaching the same photos with something meaningful as a base – say a Leica, Mamiya, or similar….

  • Nogarder

    The new analyst live in palo alto usa.

    Fakemark He was working in cupertino this summer

    http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/22478_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_950_.php

  • Maik Urbczat

    Should you trust this platform if you ignore the Samsung Note 8?
    Provenly one of the best cameras.

  • Bengt-Åke Varg

    Is there a reason you guys tested the galaxy s6 last month? I really dont understand why u put time and effort into reviewing a 2 year old phone? Why did you not pick the s8 as it is the obvious one to test if u choose samsung. The relevance of the the iphone 8 review dont say anything as u havent reviewed any other relevant phone camera in 2017…. Test the s8 or the note 8 or lg v30. I would guess you will only review pixel 2, but please do at least one more so there is at least a couple of phones with relevance to compare.

  • Gieffe22

    RIDICOLOUS, dxo biased!

  • sgrips

    why dont y test lumia 950 XL ???

  • Nikolas Heyworth

    Apple fanboys will still cry when Google pixel 2 releases. Then will continue to bash trump supporters for “not looking at the facts” 😂

    • Golden Boy

      It’s Trump who doesn’t look at the facts. Regardless, I doubt that there’s a correlation between pixel 2 owners and Trumptards.

      • 거지

        Hi, Libtard.

        • Golden Boy

          Hi Trumptard

  • Kunaal Gosrani

    Can someone test the Samsung note 8 please

  • LOL at that Bokeh image. I have an old Galaxy Note 5 that does Bokeh better than the iPhone 8. Either that or the photographer had no idea what he was doing.

  • IDI

    I don’t understand this test results, the iPhone 8 have a fantastic camera, but how it get 96 points when didn’t get a result over 90 points in the individual test? Is this site a joke?

    • Hanu Nachu

      Agreed. Forget all the people from either camp. Show explain how you arrived at 96. How are the points weighted then normalized?

      I think going forward no matter what device you will be testing, the readers would like to know how arrive at each individual score. It is just very strange when there are no individual score close to the overall score.

      It will help us understand future scoring.

  • mitch

    Why did you not test Note 8 which announced dual cameras, a first for Samsung, and Note 8 came out before iPhone 8 plus?

    What is your rationale for delaying Note 8 testing?

    • SSRREEDD

      It makes much more sense to test SGN8 against Ai8+. Even better if they would wait for new Pixel and iPhone X later this year and will test all of the top bunch against each other.

      • mitch

        Totally disagree, based on Samsung’s market share and the classic camera battle between Samsung’s cameras and that iPhone’s cameras it makes sense to pit them against each other.

        It’s ridiculous to claim iPhone 8 plus best smartphone camera ever tested and not mention in the article that they did not test Note 8 camera.

        • SSRREEDD

          True, they might have tested all three phones for this article.
          SGN8 camera is the same as SGS8, though, it would not change the situation much.

          But Pixel 2 that will come out later will probably top iPhone 8 Plus score. iPhone X is only better thanks to the optical stabilization of 2x zoom, so the score is not expected to change much.

        • Ace

          YEssss. Apple IS the BEst camera phone EVEr to be tested!

  • Boris Romac

    I hope You will test new LGV30 soon. Thx

  • Manzur Huq

    Why Apple could not use !6 or larger MP sensors?. That would have been a killer.

  • StuFaz

    I smell bias. These guys have a vested interest in iPhones… with an iPhone camera adaptor product on the market.

    Why has the old iPhone 6 been retested before the Samsung S8 or S7?? I’m sure under the new test metrics it will suddenly become a poor camera in some areas…. and the new Samsung or Google phones will be 1-2 points behind the new iPhones. Haha. Nice.

    Just on the comparison photos though in this story, why did the model change her hair allowing more light on her face in the seated shot? Why in the train station photo is she standing closer/further away? When you have other sources of light and you change how they hit the surface of an object (like a face) this has a big impact of what the default camera results will look like.

    • SSRREEDD

      Old iPhone was retested because Apple has life five year long updates support and it improves the functionality of the camera of its models over time in newer iOS versions. Samsung does it, too, of course, but only for a short while and on just one or two models. Finally, of course it makes sense to re-test iPhone right before its yearly update. Especially since it is by far the most popular phone model in the world.

      • StuFaz

        “…of course it makes sense to re-test iPhone right before its yearly update” – Apple don’t have one phone model anymore, so there is not really a “yearly update” – however, under this logic, you would have re-tested the Samsung S7 and S8 in time for the Note 8 yeah? I don’t agree with that, but I do think they should re-test newer phones first – as these are current products in the market. To not do so favours one product over another, exactly what they said they were trying to avoid by not revealing how they rank/rate each category.

  • naveen kumar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=453&v=bwnSCjyhKuU

    lol! so the iphone 8 plus has inferior color, auto focus , texture and contract than the google pixel which is more than a year and a half old but some how it won? smoke weed everyday!

    • SSRREEDD

      Do not confuse anecdotal comparisons in non-controllable setting with actual instrumental measurements. You totally loved when DxOmark gave the highst scores to SGS and Pixel in the past, but now it is Apple for a change and you all of sudden skeptical?

      • Matthew Langley

        You realize that the comparison they showed was the iPhone 8 Plus to the Note 8, the Note 8 has yet to be reviewed by dxmomark despite releasing before it. So there literally is no dxomark instrumented tests to compare the two right now and it’s a bit questionable why they chose to review the iPhone 8 Plus without reviewing the Note 8 which came out before.

        Additionally when they retested phones a week or two before the iPhone 8 Plus review landed (and came out) they retested the most recent iPhone at the time, the 7s, but did not do a new test for the recently released Note 8, nor did they retest the S8/S8+ or re-test the S7, they instead went 2 years back and retested the S6 Edge.

        Again both of these things are very odd and are exactly why we don’t have an apples to apples (no pun intended) dxomark instrumented comparison between the two… though we *should* have had that. By the time this review landed the Note 8 should have *already* been reviewed… and if the Note 8 beat the Pixel but not the iPhone8/8+ then the Note 8 should’ve had a headline that it was the best camera ever tested until the iPhone came out… and if it beats the iPhone 8+ then the iPhone would *never* have had the headline of best camera ever tested by them.

        The release cycle of these reviews are amazingly biased against Samsung and for Apple. The reviews themselves are fine and up to dxomark quality as usual (though I question rating fake bokeh so high, but a relatively minor quibble. This is an objective conclusive, a fact, not open for debate. Whether or not they chose to benefit the Apple is an open question, maybe they ordered a Note 8 and it got delayed, maybe it broke, maybe they had a fault device or encountered an issue that compromised the testing. Maybe it’s all a ploy to get more Apple cred and views, maybe that came down from a marketing exec and internal dxomark people hate it as much as we are hating it on the outside. The reality is we don’t know because they haven’t communicated anything. This really is a cause for concern though as it would be if a Samsung got reviewed before an earlier released iPhone for example.

      • oplix

        the iphone 8 camera is complete garbage. you must be blind.

  • Antony Coc

    Iphone 8 plus 94…Sony xperia xz1 83…yes…realy.
    https://youtu.be/3DXYIsUGXa8

  • Ace

    You girls will really be suicidal once the Iphone X comes out. It will totally smash Samesung and will forced to admit the Apple is the superior phone maker. The Iphone X will introduce new technologies that all other phone vendors dream about incorporating in their devices. Yet again Apple shows their unique capabilities to innovate and shift the boundaries of what can be.

    • oplix

      thats a hilarious troll

    • balcobomber25

      “The Iphone X will introduce new technologies”

      The iPhone x will introduce old Android technologies and market them as new to iSheep.

      There I fixed that line for you.

      • Barack Trump

        If its old Android technologies, what are iPhone taking better photos than the Android, the way you talk, Android have had years head start on Apple but still can’t take better photos.
        You Android sheep are all alike.

        • balcobomber25

          Lol. HTC U, Galaxy S8 and Google Pixel have the best cameras of any devices.

  • Matthew Langley

    Dxomark please at least give us an update… the Note 8 started shipping on Sept 15th and we have yet to see a review or any info regarding it, yet the iPhone 8 released on Sept 22 and we saw a same day review.

    I still appreciate the quality of your reviews, including this one (though I do question whether fake bokeh should be given much credit, but that’s a minor question) though you can imagine a lot of people are very curious at your choice of reviewing the later released iPhone before the already released Note 8 (and widely reviewed elsewhere)… especially since the Note 8 is the chief competitor to the iPhone 8 Plus in camera setup and features.

    I am also curious as to why when you retested phones you tested the Pixel and HTC phone… the most current iPhone 7s at the time of doing so, yet you skipped the S8 and S7 gen and went straight to re-testing the S6 from two years ago.

    So here we have a new protocol from you and not Samsung phone within the last two years has been tested in this protocol while you re-tested the last gen iPhone 7 immediately and tested the iPhone 8 on release date (a week after the Note 8 release date).

    As you might imagine objectively this raises a lot of concerns and it’s pretty much impossible not to. You’ve earned a great deal of respect not only in your mobile reviews but your longstanding DSLR and mirrorless camera reviews for high quality and objectivity. This review itself is excellent as are your re-tested reviews of other phones. Your seemingly deliberate choice to avoid any recent Samsung phones (the most popular Android phone) is immensely puzzling. I personally would prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt but you also haven’t communicated any of these reasons. Again objectively it’s very hard not to see a purposely non-objective agenda behind such decisions though again I prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt.

    Any update would be greatly appreciated… Already you have lost a lot of trust in choosing to not re-test or test a Samsung phone released in the last 2 years, even if based off coincidental and/or unintentional conditions. It’s impossible to not have lost that trust, even if the release timeline wasn’t on purpose (which is hard to imagine why both with the re-test and the new tests) to remain objective one might imagine you would wait to review in the proper release order (or have any representation from Samsung in the last 2 years) or might at least communicate out what conditions might have caused such an altered review/re-test order.

    Many of us trusted and relied upon you for years. I did so in purchasing my Sony A7 and trading away my Canon 60D. I did again in moving to the Samsung S6 Edge+. Right now we have had the Note out for nearly two weeks and the iPhone 8 phones out for just less than a week and people are needing to make purchasing decisions. You are failing us by not having the relevant reviews for us to contribute towards our purchasing decision and even more so for having a review lineup that specifically benefits one of the two most popular phone manufacturers out there. Better to be slow to release such reviews in total than to do so in a way that compromises your objective integrity.

  • oplix

    this camera is garbage in every category that actually matters. the main one being autofocus. I like how apple paid off all it’s sponsored reviewers to completely ignore the fact that it’s autofocus technology is 10 years behind Samsung.

    • Golden Boy

      I like how you hate Apple so much that your first instinct is to deny the findings by any rationale that pops into your head

      • 거지

        This BOi

  • maverick786us

    I own iPhone 6s plus, a MacBook 15 and an iPad. I am planning to buy an apple watch too.
    But I am NOT an apple fan. No doubt iPhone 8 plus camera samples looks best in this review. But they were using last generation devices in this comparison. They should have added Note 8 in this comparison

  • Megajer

    Come on!, can we take you guys seriously when you did not even take a decent HDR sample with the Pixel device? (first photo with model), that is not profesional AT ALL. the girl is soooooo obviously out of focus that make me feel bad…
    Zoom picture with the Pixel is just ridiculous…
    Bokeh looks awful in any device (maybe the only one that take good Bokeh pictures is the Note 8)
    In the picture that the iPhone shows a slight yellow cast looks better in the Pixel, at least in terms of details.
    Im not saying iPhone 8 series are bad at all, but come on, some of those samples are a bad election.

    • Aldo Soto

      The best Bokeh owns to the Xiaomi Mi6, seriously

  • arun s

    please check asus zenfone 4 pro

  • Károly Keresztesi

    How can it be the best ??? do you get worse pictures in the dark than samsung or Pixel? Or is it only the best in the summer between 8 am and 8 pm?

    • BDGallof

      how can you be so dumb?

  • Milan Cosovic

    Do Note 8.

  • Technology

    The pixel vs iPhone bokeh comparison is amazing. For the iPhone, the girl’s face is out of focus, there is a lot of noise and it’s too much underexposed and there is a noise reducing texture like. Having a better bokeh (which is ridiculous for a smartphone anyway) is plain stupid when what is on focus is complete garbage.
    How can that be the best photography smartphone in the market?

  • starlord21

    I like iPhones (have used them since first iphone) for overall functionality but cameras have always been subpar.
    This review is biased, I have iphone 8 and camera still did not improve much.
    also all phones take much better picture than the shots posted here.

    • Golden Boy

      I don’t know what you’re talking about. Every comparison video on youtube shows the i8 producing some amazing images and beating even the S8 and V30 in most scenarios.

  • hazy leftie

    It’s so frustrating that the main page of DxOmark now features more mobile phones than cameras or lenses. It’s not what it used to be, it’s far worse. So, dear DxOmark, could you please make a different site for mobile phones, separate from cameras, sensors and lenses? Thanks.

  • Dom Garcia-Hall

    Can you test the Note 8?

  • Golden Boy

    Praise Android cameras – You’re the best camera testing site around

    Praise iPhone cameras – Biased! Bought and paid for! I’m a lifeless anti Apple troll and I can’t handle the truth!

  • J-2

    Here blind test, I’ve choose photo C all the way for natural shoot, B is overexposed. What’s yours?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQE7lfDbR_Q

  • J-2

    Here blind test, I’ve choose photo C all the way for natural shoot, B is overexposed. What’s yours?

    Portrait Mode BLIND TEST – iPhone 8 Plus vs OnePlus 5 vs Galaxy Note 8
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh4S5Jjwzas

    • Igor Rasovic

      B is the best

  • Igor Rasovic

    HAHAHAHA, Iphone 8 plus 94 , dxomark must make an joke !!!! Then where is Samsung S8 + rating ?
    maybe 154 or much more. 🙂 😀
    Check comparison:
    http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8523&idPhone2=8131&idPhone3=7263

  • Gandhi

    these lagdroid virgins needs to stop whining

  • Gandhi

    can you name “subject” and link me to her profile?

  • Gieffe22
    • Igor Rasovic

      I argue with you, Dxomark gives fake tests for cell phone. Apple has given a lot of money for this ranking.

  • Igor Rasovic

    Apple has given a lot of money for this ranking, it is so obvious. 😀
    Check another blind test, Iphone 8 plus vs Galaxy Note 8
    https://preporucamo.com/iphone-8-vs-note-8-blind-kamera-test/2017/09/29/#page

  • άλεξ τερζίδης.

    You guys are so funny and forget easily.
    When the Pixel was announced, DxOMark didn’t review the 7 Plus and no one said anything.
    When the 8 Plus got announced and DxO scored it the highest, everyone criticize them for not being objective and of course there was lots of hate on Apple.

    P.S. Google even boasted on the Pixel event about its DxOMark camera score, whereas Apple didn’t even mention it about the 8.

  • Jemand der es besser weiß

    What was the price of this ranking of Apple?
    The note 7 has not been tested, the note 8 probably not.

  • Ben Harison

    look at all the butthurt android fanboys with 0 IQ.
    they are yet to test note 8 and other androids with the new protocol.
    calms your tits butthurt fanboys

  • worldbfree4me