Samsung Galaxy Note 8: The best smartphone for zoom

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DxOMark Mobile

The Samsung Galaxy Note 8 “phablet” joins the growing number of dual-cam smartphones. The Note 8 features two 12MP sensors, the primary camera equipped with a wide-angle 26mm f/1.7 lens, and the second with a 52mm telephoto f/2.4 lens for x2 optical zoom shots. The Note 8 is Samsung’s first foray into the world of dual cameras and is a great success, offering the best zoom capabilities of any mobile device we’ve tested to date. Add to that PDAF autofocus, optical image stabilization, Auto HDR, and a massive 6.3” Super AMOLED display, and there’s plenty for smartphone photography enthusiasts to get excited about.

Key camera specifications:

  • Primary 12MP 1/2.55” sensor with 26mm (wide-angle) f/1.7 lens (1.4um pixel size)
  • Secondary 12MP 1/3.6” sensor with 52mm (telephoto) f/2.4 lens  (1.0um pixel size)
  • x2 optical zoom (up to x8 with digital zoom)
  • PDAF autofocus
  • Optical Image Stabilization (OIS)
  • Dual-LED (dual tone) flash
  • 6.3” (1440 x 2960) Super AMOLED display with 521ppi density
  • 2160p@30fps (4K) video

About DxOMark Mobile tests: For scoring and analysis in our smartphone camera reviews, DxOMark engineers capture and evaluate over 1500 test images and more than 2 hours of video in both controlled lab environments and in natural indoor and outdoor scenes. This article is designed to highlight the most important results of the testing. For more information about the DxOMark Mobile test protocol, click here.

Test summary

Achieving an overall DxOMark mobile score of 94 points, the Note 8 becomes the new joint leader for smartphone image quality alongside Apple’s iPhone 8 Plus. A phenomenal photo sub-score that breaks new ground as the first smartphone to hit 100 points makes the Note 8 the current class-leader for stills, thanks to excellent zoom quality, good noise reduction and detail preservation, as well as fast and accurate autofocus. The Note 8 doesn’t quite match the same heights for video, where its sub-score of 84 is a little behind the best performers, such as the Google Pixel with 91 points, or the iPhone 8 Plus and the HTC U11, both with 89. It’s still a very capable device for video, however, with its key strengths being good exposure with fast convergence, fast and stable autofocus, as well as good noise reduction, white balance, and color rendering.

Bright light

Images captured in bright light on the Note 8 are on the whole outstanding, with bold and vivid color rendering and high levels of detail preservation.

The Samsung Galaxy Note 8 captures outstanding pictures in bright light, with accurate exposure, bold colors, and good levels of fine detail.

In bright light, color rendering on the Note 8 is generally very good, displaying bold and vivid color, although a slight pinkish color cast is sometimes visible.

Overall dynamic range is a little limited compared to some of the best HDR algorithms we’ve seen, with brighter highlights often overexposed. As usual, we’ve tested the device in default mode, but with the Note 8 offering an Auto HDR feature, we expected a little more highlight detail preservation. Using this challenging HDR test scene, it’s obvious that the Google Pixel retains a little more highlight detail in the blues of the river, although both devices fail to record any color in the sky.

The Note 8 displays limited dynamic range in this challenging high-contrast scene, with some loss of highlight detail.

In contrast, the same scene shot with the Google Pixel displays noticeably more highlight detail in the water.

Occasional white balance irregularities are also visible in bright outdoor scenes, with a visible pinkish cast evident, but color saturation remains strong for some stunning results.

Low light and Flash

Shooting under indoor lighting conditions, the Note 8’s exposures are excellent, with well-managed noise, good detail preservation, and vivid color. In extreme low light, images are a little underexposed, although at 5 lux they remain very usable and are still exploitable even in near-dark conditions of just 1 lux. Although it captures slightly less detail on moving subjects under indoor lighting conditions, the results are still very acceptable, and it’s only when light levels are very low that the Note 8 seriously struggles to preserve detail on moving subjects.

Under indoor lighting conditions, the Note 8’s exposures are excellent, with well-managed noise, fairly good detail preservation, and vivid color.

Using flash without any additional light sources, exposure, white balance, and color rendering are good, although some corner shading is evident. When mixing flash with additional light sources, exposure, white balance, and color rendering remain accurate, with repeatable results over consecutive exposures, but a slight ghosting effect appears on some portraits and color shading is also evident, along with a pink color cast in the center shifting to green at the edges.

Zoom and Bokeh

The stand-out attribute of the Note 8 is its zoom, with excellent results using the x2 optical zoom lens, as well as impressive resolution on digital zoom shots at x4 and even at x8. If you’re serious about shooting portraits with your smartphone, a dual-cam setup featuring a telephoto lens (52mm equivalent on the Note 8) is essential for capturing people pictures without the distortions that occur using a wide-angle lens, and for helping separate the subject from the background. Using the Note 8’s zoom up to x4 magnification in bright conditions results in phenomenal detail, and although less detail is recorded at x8, the images are still very usable, especially in bright light. Using the x2 optical zoom in low light, detail preservation remains outstanding, but digital zoom shots start to suffer a little more, particularly at x8 magnification, where detail is seriously affected. Still, it’s the best zoom device we’ve tested to date in low light.

In bright light, using the digital zoom at x4 magnification is also excellent, and although at x8 (pictured here) image quality is reduced, results are still very acceptable.

In comparison, the iPhone 8 Plus, although offering excellent optical zoom at x2, isn’t as strong as the Note 8 at x8, with significantly more noise, color fringing, and artifacts.

To further enhance portraits, the Note 8’s bokeh simulation mode does an excellent job of artificially blurring the background — most of the time. When applied, the depth-of-field effect is very good, applying a strong but pleasant blur, with a nice circular shape to the specular highlights. Although some masking error artifacts are visible around the portrait at close inspection, they’re less noticeable when viewing a whole image, especially on the device’s screen. It also helps when the subject is on the same focal plane, with visible depth estimation failures resulting in parts of the subject that are closer to the camera, such as a hand, for example, displaying an unrealistic level of blur. Repeatability is also a bit hit and miss, and although the bokeh effect kicks in more often when shooting static subjects, we found the effect wasn’t applied on around a third of our portrait shots.

Bokeh simulation effect on the Samsung Galaxy Note 8.

Bokeh simulation effect on the iPhone 8 Plus.

Video

With a video sub-score of 84, the Note 8 lags a little behind the best, but is still a very capable performer in video mode, packing a 2160p@30fps resolution for detail-rich 4k video, or 720p@240fps capture for rendering creative slow-motion effects in post-production. The device’s key video strengths are excellent color and noise in bright light, with very good overall white balance and color rendering. Generally, the Note 8’s video exposures are excellent, too, with fast convergence under changing lighting conditions, although dynamic range can be a little limited in high-contrast scenes, with some loss of detail in both the shadows and highlights. Autofocus is fast and stable in many cases, although with no tracking capabilities in default mode, keeping moving subjects sharp can be challenging. Video stabilization is also quite effective, with only minor residual motion visible in some situations, usually on static subjects.

Photo scores explained

The Samsung Galaxy Note 8 achieves a total photo score of 100, which is calculated from its scores in tests that examine different aspects of its performance under different lighting conditions. In this section we’ll take a closer look at these image quality sub-scores.

Exposure and Contrast (82)

A very respectable, if not outstanding, score for exposure. The Note 8 really excels in outdoor lighting conditions where, a few HDR issues aside, it generally produces accurate exposures with good contrast.

In bright light, the Note 8 produces many excellent exposures with good contrast.

Although close, the iPhone 8 renders slightly better dynamic range with more highlight detail in the reflected sky in the window.

Under indoor lighting conditions, exposures remain excellent down to light levels of 20 Lux, and although images in extreme low light (1 to 5 Lux) are slightly underexposed, they remain exploitable.

In extreme low-light conditions (1 Lux) the Note 8’s  DxOMark chart shots are underexposed but still exploitable.

The Note 8’s limited dynamic range in default mode is apparent when shooting strong backlit portraits, as the camera fails to record an accurate exposure for either the darker or lighter areas. No doubt the use of flash to lighten the subject and manual adjustment of exposure in Pro mode could improve results significantly, but that requires intervention from the photographer.

In backlit portraits, faces are underexposed, while the background is overexposed.

Color (73)

Galaxy Note 8 images show bold color rendering in bright outdoor conditions, and although color under indoor or low-light conditions is very acceptable, some color casts in these conditions affected the overall color score.

The Note 8 renders bright and vivid color in most lighting situations, with particularly bold hues when shooting in good light outdoors.

Although white balance is generally accurate and pleasant, a slight pink color cast is evident on some outdoor pictures.

In our perceptual analysis of image quality, the Note 8 scored very well for both color rendering and color uniformity, but white balance wasn’t as strong, with some visible color casts in all lighting conditions, including a pinkish cast outdoors and a particularly noticeable orange cast indoors.

Autofocus (94)

At 94, the Note 8 achieves an outstanding score for its autofocus performance. Scores are excellent for both static scenes (Landscape) and those with subject movement (Family), achieving nearly the highest marks in both indoor and outdoor conditions. Focus is fast and accurate in low light, too, and although the odd failure crept in with subject movement in low light, the Note 8 remains a reliable device for sharp images in all conditions.

In low-light conditions (20 lux), a shooting time of around 300ms is pretty fast, and the Note 8 is very accurate, too, with a 0% focus failure rate over 30 consecutive shots.

Shooting times are also very fast, with only a very short delay (under 100ms) for the Note 8 to find focus from an out-of-focus state in both indoor and outdoor lighting conditions. The delay was a little longer (around 300ms) in very low light, but that’s still very acceptable for the conditions.

Detail (65)

The Note 8’s overall detail score of 65, comprises analyses of texture preservation in both static scenes (Landscape score) and scenes with subject movement (Family score) in all lighting conditions. The Note 8 records excellent detail on static scenes in both indoor and outdoor lighting conditions; lower levels of detail in extreme low light, and in scenes containing subject movement affected the overall score.

Detail preservation is good in outdoor scenes, but sometimes fine details are lost in low-contrast areas.

In bright outdoor conditions, texture preservation on moving subjects is good, if not excellent, with less detail under indoor conditions, and a significant loss of detail on moving subjects in extreme low light. Using a tripod doesn’t have any impact on the Note 8’s exposure times, but with shutter speeds dropping below 1/40 second under low-light conditions between 1 and 100 Lux, tripod images are a little sharper.

Samsung Galaxy Note 8, 1000 Lux.

Google Pixel, 1000 Lux.

iPhone 8 Plus, 1000 Lux.

Examining handheld images shot in bright light (1000 Lux), sharpness for the Note 8 is good, but the finest details aren’t as well-preserved as for the Google Pixel or the iPhone 8 Plus.

Sharpness score for static scenes (Landscape) and scenes with subject movement (Family) in different lighting conditions.

The acutance (sharpness) graph clearly indicates that the most detail is preserved in static scenes (Landscape) in good light between 20 and 100 Lux. While good texture is also recorded in scenes with motion (Family) in bright conditions between 100 and 1000 Lux, it drops below 50% in low-light conditions, when you can expect to see motion blur on moving subjects.

Samsung Galaxy Note 8, 5 Lux.

Google Pixel, 5 lux

iPhone 8 Plus, 5 lux

In low-light conditions (5 Lux), the iPhone 8 Plus clearly has an edge for sharpness when viewing 100% crops, but at the expense of a little more visible noise.

Noise (75)

A very good score for noise, which is excellent in both indoor and low light lighting conditions. Denoising is well-managed, with only some some residual luminance noise visible in darker shadow areas. Levels of visible noise are well-controlled on the Note 8 compared to the iPhone 8 Plus and the Google Pixel, with less luminance noise evident in both the highlight and shadow regions.

Samsung Galaxy Note 8, 5 Lux.

Google Pixel, 5 Lux.

iPhone 8 Plus, 5 Lux.

Noise performance in bright light is not quite as good as in low-light conditions, with some residual luminance noise visible in the shadow areas.

Denoising is very well-managed under low-light conditions, but some residual luminance noise is quite visible in outdoor conditions in dark areas

Artifacts (68)

The Note 8 dropped points for loss of edge sharpness, visible ringing along contrast edges, color fringing, vignetting, as well as visible maze and moiré artifacts, which can occur on high-frequency patterns. Of all these concerns, it’s the loss of sharpness between the edges and center of the frame that has the most detrimental impact on image quality. Viewed on the device screen, the impact of these artifacts is small, but if you’re planning on making prints, or displaying images electronically on a large scale, they will be of more concern.

Some Samsung Galaxy Note 8 images can show color fringing on high-contrast edges.

Flash (82)

A good overall score for flash, with the Note 8’s dual-tone LED module providing consistently good results in both flash-only and mixed lighting situations. Its key strengths are excellent exposure, as well as good color and texture. Heavy vignetting, or corner shading, occurs both on flash-only shots and more heavily in mixed lighting conditions, resulting in fairly dark edges on flash pictures. Levels of detail are very good, but noise is evident, as well as a slight ghosting in some portrait pictures. White balance and color rendering are generally very good and consistent over consecutive shots, but some color shading does creep in.

Zoom (66)

An excellent overall score for zoom, which is composed of individual scores in low light, indoor, and outdoor lighting conditions. Using the x2 optical zoom via the 52mm telephoto lens, detail is excellent under both indoor and outdoor conditions and remains very good in extreme low light, too. Long-range zoom using the digital zoom at x4 and x8 is also very good — in fact, the best we’ve tested. Although some noise and artifacts do start to become visible with digital zoom, they’re well-controlled compared to competitor devices. For good detail, try to restrict digital zoom to x4 magnification, but in bright light (1000 Lux), detail at x8 is just about acceptable, especially if you’re only viewing images on a small screen.

Using the Note 8’s digital zoom at x5 magnification, detail preservation is good, and although aliasing and moiré effects are barely visible, some noise and ringing artifacts start to appear. They’re well-controlled compared to many competitor devices, however, making the Note 8 the best smartphone for digital zoom we’ve tested to date.

100% crops of the DxOMark test chart show that the Note 8 records very good detail iusing the x2 optical zoom in all lighting conditions. With x4 digital zoom, you can expect good detail in bright light and acceptable results for indoor shots. In very low light, the digital zoom fails to capture good detail when viewing images at 100%, but for small-screen display, resolution is just about good enough.

100% crops of the DxOMark test chart shot in low light, indoor, and outdoor lighting conditions at 2x, 4x, and 8x zoom magnification.

Bokeh (45)

Bokeh simulation on the Note 8 does a pretty consistent job in both low and bright light conditions. Its strengths are a strong blur or depth-of-field effect, which can make for some striking portraits. The shape of the bokeh is a nice circular pattern, similar to what would be achieved optically with a telephoto lens and wide aperture. Repeatability is an issue, with the effect failing to activate on about a third of our portraits, and a noticeable step in the blur gradient is often evident behind the subject, along with inconsistencies in the amount of noise applied to the blur.

The Note 8’s bokeh simulation mode applies a strong background blur effect, with reasonably good subject masking and excellent depth estimation.

Background blur isn’t as pronounced when taking the same shot with the iPhone 8 Plus, but both devices render nice circular bokeh on the spectral highlights, creating something similar to the optical effect of a DSLR and telephoto lens.

Video scores explained

The Samsung Galaxy Note 8 achieves an overall video score of 84 points, so doesn’t achieve quite the same heights as with still photos. The overall video score is calculated from the video sub-scores, however, which gives some indication of the strengths and weakness of the device’s performance when shooting moving images, thus: Exposure and Contrast (80), Color (86), Autofocus (65), Texture (47), Noise (73), Artifacts (80), and Stabilization (81).

The Note 8’s key strengths therefore lie in generally excellent exposures, with fast exposure convergence as lighting conditions change, although dynamic range can be a little limited in high-contrast scenes. White balance and color rendering are also very good. Although autofocus is fast and stable in many videos, the lack of any autofocus tracking in default mode reduced the overall score. It should be mentioned, though, that the Note 8 comes with a dedicated tracking mode that has to be manually enabled and therefore was not included in our test. Video stabilization is good, but not quite on the same level as some competitors, with a lot of residual motion when holding the camera still during recording.

Conclusion: Top ranking… for now

When all the tests are verified, the scores calculated, and the perceptual analyses discussed, the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 comes out as an outstanding choice for the smartphone photography enthusiast, matching the top overall score of 94 points of the iPhone 8 Plus. Dual-cam setups offering a second telephoto zoom for portraits are a real step forward for high-end smartphone photography, and the implementation on the Note 8 is exceptional, making it the best smartphone for zoom shots we’ve tested.

Add to that extremely fast and accurate autofocus and a very competent flash unit, the Note 8 breaks new ground as the first smartphone to achieve 100 points for its photo sub-score. With new devices on the horizon from several of the key innovators for smartphone photography, will the Note 8 be able to hold onto its top spot? Time will tell.

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DxOMark mobile
Samsung Galaxy Note 8
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DxOMark Mobile
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Pros

  • Excellent zoom performance up to 4x
  • Very low noise levels in low light
  • Fast and accurate autofocus
  • Good detail in bright light and indoor conditions
  • Bright and vivid colors

Pros

  • Good white balance and color rendering
  • Good exposure and fast exposure convergence
  • Stable and fast autofocus
  • Good noise reduction across all light conditions
  • Good stabilization

Cons

  • Limited dynamic range, frequent highlight clipping
  • Bokeh effect is sometimes not visible even when mode is enabled
  • Frequent white balance casts in bright light and indoor conditions

Cons

  • No autofocus tracking capability in default mode
  • Shadow and highlight clipping in high-contrast scenes
  • Residual motion visible when holding the camera still during recording
  • Matthew Langley

    Identical scores (and the Note 8 wins on stills) but a very different tone between your iPhone and Note 8 articles (which if you did in the order of release would have changed the iPhone narrative completely)

    iPhone 8 Plus
    “Conclusion: The best smartphone camera we’ve ever tested”

    Note 8
    “Conclusion: Top ranking… for now”

    iPhone 8 Plus
    “Overall, the Apple iPhone 8 Plus is an excellent choice for the needs of nearly every smartphone photographer.”

    Note 8
    “When all the tests are verified, the scores calculated, and the perceptual analyses discussed, the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 comes out as an outstanding choice for the smartphone photography enthusiast, matching the top overall score of 94 points of the iPhone 8 Plus.”

    (first lines if your reviews)

    iPhone 8 Plus
    “The Apple iPhone 8 Plus has a main camera system truly worthy of a flagship phone.”

    Note 8
    “The Samsung Galaxy Note 8 “phablet” joins the growing number of dual-cam smartphones.”

    I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt but your words clearly express a bias, at least whoever wrote the text of these reviews. Of course with the fact that your headlines for the iPhone wouldn’t have existed if you reviewed the Note 8 first since it came out first… the iPhone would’ve just tied the Note 8.

    You also don’t really go into detail behind your video scores, show any pictures revealing why you tested what, video clips, etc. It’s hard to take those video scores on any of these reviews very seriously without your usual high quality of data, samples, and explanations backing it up.

    • Megajer

      All the reason to this guy; like a person that loves photography, Im not according to give the crown to the iPhone just for fanatism.
      Is like with DSRL cameras, I love Sony, BUT, I know they are not the best of the best, same applies to phones, I dont mind what brand has the best camera, Im not “happy” to see if the iPhone wins or a Samsung device wins, I came here to see good reviews cuz your popularity, but, seems that you are not doing a real professional job lately, the love / preference for Apple in your reviews is very evident, this looks like “The verge”…

    • Ben Liu

      lol.. Simple answer is: “Samsung did not pay our ransom. But we cannot discredit them without screwing our reputation. So we will let them have the top mark this week, but HTC / Huawei / Google have paid theirs so we’ll rank them higher next week for a BIGGER result”.

      • MS_Scorpio

        What the fock are you smoking. I own a Note 8 and it is nowhere near as good as these review make them out to be. The camera doesn’t even capture as much detail as my Huawei Nexus 6P after spending hours testing side by side under different lighting conditions. Also Samsung is the ONLY company that was caught, fined in court, and admitted themselves for paying review sites and hiring netizens to write false review to trash their competitor’s products and promote their own products. This 94 score makes me wonder if that is the case since I own the Note 8 and know the camera is not that impressive.

        • S6isBoss

          ~huawei desperately trying to brainwash intensifies~

  • Rodrigo Andrade Lima

    What is the maximum value for the photos?

    • Igor Rasovic

      100 of 100, there is the end dxomark test new protocol, its max number points !

      • flodxomark

        Hello Igor, our test scores go from 0 to infinity. So, 100 is not a maximum score, and no reason that other device can’t go past it. We’re sure the time will come when they do! Regards

  • Seems like the iPhone Trumps the Samsung where it counts – exposure & contrast, color, noise, Bokeh whereas Samsung makes almost all it’s points in Autofocus and Zoom, which I feel is less important for most smartphone photography.

    Limited dynamic range, clipping and white balance can be killers for good photographs too.

    For most photographers, iPhone reigns.

    • Matthew Langley

      if your target isn’t in focus nothing else really matters. Also the Note 8 does *significantly* better in capturing low light detail than the iPhone 8 Plus

      https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-8-Plus-vs-Galaxy-Note-8-low-light-camera-shootout-Which-is-better-for-taking-photos-at-night_id98511

      Something this review hints on but doesn’t focus on nearly as much as it should… they briefly mention the lower levels of noise in low light but as you can see in the more in-depth comparison on phone arena in a variety of situations it simply captures far superior detail on top of that. Unfortunately dxomark didn’t seem to do any (or at least show any) low light real scenarios, the iPhone seems significantly inferior in taking low light photos in real scenarios like the phone arena article did (in multiple scenarios) while it might be better at taking low light pictures of pictures lol. Looks like the low light photo board might have confused the Note auto focus, I’d obviously prefer the camera that handles the real scenarios better.

      Sorry the Note 8 is just the better stills phone camera.

      I’m not sure what to think of the video reviews in this new format since they don’t explain hardly any of it, hard to take it serious, the iPhone might win in that category though in other comparisons I see a similar superior detail in Note 8 videos compared to the iPhone.

      • My impression was that speed of autofocus was the main advantage of the Samsung, which isn’t an issue for most smartphone photographers.

        From the iPhone Review: “Although the 8 Plus doesn’t always focus quickly, once it focuses, it is remarkably accurate.”

        • Matthew Langley

          Yes but again if you can’t get focus quickly enough then your picture won’t come out. Often times you use your phone as a camera because you are trying to take quick pictures which means quick focus is important. In these scenarios you may not have time to let the focus eventually get there and even if you do that means your losing time. Also a lot of smartphone users are impatient and might take a picture before the iPhone fully takes focus.

          Again all reasons why autofocus being faster is a very important advantage.

          Again the Note 8 is still the low light king, hands down.

          The iPhone exposes some pictures better in some scenarios, though if you look across the web at all comparisons you’ll find some scenarios where the Note 8 does have superior exposure, though I’d give the edge to the iPhone when averaged.

          The telephoto lens and image capture on the Note 8 is far superior, this review here points that out and in ways that are likely due to the sensor/lens, though the iPhone X will have OIS in that camera some of those areas likely won’t improve…. though this seems like a set up to get the iPhone X to get top score.

          I have respected dxomark for so long, long before they reviewed mobile phones, when using them to inform my DSLR purchases (and the moving to the Sony mirrorless full frame options)… though as I posted below the tone of this article (and the timing of the reviews and the lack of retesting the S8 or S7) is showing a real bias. It’s unfortunate. I’m sorry one cannot read the wording for the similarly scored devices and not see them go out of their way to shower the iPhone with positivity and avoid it for Samsung. Not sure if this was intentional, maybe just the person responsible for the copy of the articles… I hope so, but again with their choice to test the later released iPhone before the Note 8 (which gave it top camera ever tested that wouldn’t have been the case) and the fact they re-tested the iPhone 7 (the most recent iPhone at that time) on Sept 11 with their new protocol and skipped the S8 and S7 going to a two year old S6 Edge, combined with the wording and seeming spin in these articles, it’s *really* hard not to see some bias going on. Not sure what the deal is but dxomark really has lost a lot of my respect.

          Fortunately you can see the review in phone arena really step it up, showing you multiple real life low light scenarios with side by side picture crops so you can compare them directly and see their conclusion. Maybe other sites will step up to give us some proper objective comparisons in ways that are genuinely useful while dxomark starts to fail.

          Heck even places I respect far less (for objective reviews) like CNET at least shared their video clips for their comparison and you can look at them side by side (where the Note 8 tends to resolve more detail which they either didn’t notice or didn’t point out). They also missed the fact that the Note 8’s front camera video has a cropped field of view to offer a form of stabilization which is clearly evident in their videos but they don’t mention in their article… so not a great review but they give you the material they draw their conclusions from so you can find things they miss and evaluate what’s important to you.

          • Duel

            “Yes but again if you can’t get focus quickly enough then your picture won’t come out.”

            As a guy who have took thousands of photos with iPhone, i never have had problem with iPhone focus speed, it’s very fast and i mostly do music photography from bands so lot of moving parts with lights and people so the camera need to be ready very fast and it is, focus speed never been problem for me.

          • Matthew Langley

            The problem with anecdotal experience with someone who isn’t comparing both phones is exactly that… You haven’t benefited from the greater Note 8 focus, for all you know it could completely change your style of taking photos.

            Are you getting commissions from Apple or something? The “never been a problem for me” is a ridiculous metric for objective comparison, of course it hasn’t since you haven’t benefited from the faster autofocus and you’ve adapted to what you’ve had, we all do. I had no problem with my phone 3 years ago, that doesn’t mean I don’t benefit from the improvements since then.

            If you photograph bands a lot you’d probably appreciate the significantly better low light performance and focusing of the Note 8 if you had one. Kind of the perfect phone camera for you actually.

          • Duel

            “If you photograph bands a lot you’d probably appreciate the significantly better low light performance and focusing of the Note 8 if you had one. Kind of the perfect phone camera for you actually.”

            Yes that’s why i wait iPhone X, im not Interested phablet size phones.

            Also zoom is something im missing and it’s actually most biggest thing which would improve my shots a lot and with iPhone X getting best option available.

          • Matthew Langley

            The Note 8 will keep this lead over the iPhone X in low light, the iPhone X has nearly an identical camera setup… The main camera is the same and the telephoto one is only a bit brighter and has OIS. The detail advantage you can see in the phonearena comparison is with the main camera as well.

            So in that scenario a Note 8 would likely be a better pick.

            As for zoom you simply don’t know that the iPhone X will be the best option available. I’ve outlined the differences and based on this review likely at most will close the gap with the Note 8 in that department though possibly not fully and not in low light.

          • Duel

            As a photographer and graphic designer i definately chose iPhone natural looking photos. Note 8 does too much post processing to make photos look better than they really are, Sometimes it works and Sometimes it just makes photo look very bad and unnatural.

            Also i definately want those new Portrait lightning effects what 8 plus and upcoming X offers.

          • Matthew Langley

            That’a bit ironic since the iPhone has been kicking out exaggerated and less natural colors in most of these comparisons while Samsung really toned this down and produced far more muted and more natural colors in most comparisons (look at the supersaf video for a lot of comparisons).

            Likewise the Note 8 doesn’t do much post processing at all and is clearly not bad or unnatural lol. Your bias is real man. Most of that stuff you can tweak to your desire.

            Really, portrait lighting? You just said you didn’t like things that were over post processed lol… it’s just fake post processed lighting, not impressive at all.

    • Raven Ridge

      Exposure, color, contrast in auto mode are extremely subjective anyway(can be altered very easily with Samsung’s camera built in pro mode) and Samsung can always improve their automode processing algorithms.
      Limited dynamic range has to do with auto HDR processing in certain situations. I can guarantee I could take better HDR pictures with the Note 8 that the ones shown in this article which are simply point and shoot pictures.
      Better autofocus, zoom, and detail in low light can be achieved only by using a better sensor so in reality Samsung is the one that wins where it matters the most. That is why is has a higher Photo score.

      • May work for a professional or knowledgable amateur photographer but not for the 99.9% of smartphone users who just point and shoot, like my sister-in-law who has a Samsung S8 and manages to take the worse looking photos ever. She recently stopped using flash which has help somewhat.

        • Raven Ridge

          Oh here it is, the old what 99% of users do argument.

  • Moisés

    How do they count photo sub-score?
    One item only is above 90 but the photo score is 100.

  • SonicPhoenix

    Before I enlarged them, I thought you had captured a mugging in the Note8/Pixel dynamic range comparison photos!

  • eemix

    wait for the X…. it will be better because….. it is apple. And it has to sell like a hot bread…

  • Igor Rasovic
  • Igor Rasovic

    The blind test between Note 8 vs IPhone 8
    Note 8 – 3970 votes
    IPhone 8 – 1658 votes
    Complete test: https://preporucamo.com/iphone-8-vs-note-8-blind-kamera-test/2017/09/29/

  • buddy

    Objective scoring based on human perception? I’ll take it with as much pinch of a salt as with how The verge scores its reviews. In short no flying *fish* given.

  • Lucas Henrique

    You should give Galaxy a lead because it has the pro mode

  • Igor Rasovic

    I’m Sorry, Dxomark, the difference is so big between this two camera, the Note 8 is apsolute winer,the all world sees it.
    https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-8-Plus-vs-Galaxy-Note-8-low-light-camera-shootout-Which-is-better-for-taking-photos-at-night_id98511

    • S6isBoss

      Apple paid them more :^)

    • Duel

      Difference is very big Yes, What’s wrong with the Note 8 white balance, Everything is so yellow

      Sorry i would pick iPhone with lot better color accuracy.

  • Igor Rasovic

    Goodbye Dxomark, your test is so subjective. Gsmarena and Phone arena gives very professional and objective tests.

    • Ben Liu

      I agree. GSMArena and their blind tests are the most accurate you can get in getting a fair comparison. Not to mention they do things a lot more empirically and having achievable targets instead of finger in the air “lets raise the maximum score this year” of DxO.

    • flodxomark

      Hello again Igor. We have designed our DxOMark scoring system with one obsession: develop and implement a robust test protocols which can be accurately repeated time after time, so that all devices we test are treated the same way.
      Please find more about our new DxOMark Mobile test protocol here:
      https://www.dxomark.com/introducing-the-new-dxomark-mobile-test-protocol/
      Regards

      • Squatty McFlubber

        F off. Done with this site. Never saw your ads btw.

  • Daniel R. Pinheiro

    I’m still just asking: Why don’t you test all smartphones with manual settings? This isn’t the best results you can extract from these cameras (Just in case: I’m talking about all smartphones you test).

    • Eric

      Not every manufacturer ships with a camera app that has manual controls. Additionally, for those that do, the options tend to vary from basic manual controls to very extensive ones. It’s better to be consistent and stick with auto mode across all devices.

      • EP_2012

        And not all manufacturers include zoom and bokeh features, yet they get penalized.

        A review like this should showcase the absolute best you can get with these cameras, including manual mode and RAW shooting.

        • Eric

          Adding a section that scores manual mode with RAW capabilities would be quite nice. It would hopefully push other OEMs to adopt manual controls into their app (Looks at Google).

        • Ben Liu

          The Bokeh actually penalised the Note 8 in this instance since its a new score and the averages are taken. This only scored 45 – whatever that means. lol

      • Daniel R. Pinheiro

        Not every manufacturer ships with a camera app that has manual controls.

        That should be a manufacturer limitation. Not DxOMark’s…

        • Eric

          I was just answering your question: “Why don’t you test all smartphones with manual settings?”

          • Daniel R. Pinheiro

            I understand, but I think that’s not a good justification. I’m pretty sure there are some third apps in the stores that can give excellent and practical manual controls. Since this is a “reference for image quality” site, they should push the mobile cameras for better results…

      • Ben Liu

        They need to protect Apple.. because they have the worst default Camera App in history with almost no options but the shutter button. lol.

  • HotelQuebec

    Glad Apple paid you guys to delay the Note 8 review and rate the iPhone 8+ the same score although the autofocus speed, low light, OIS, audio recording, lens flare, etc. are different.

    • S6isBoss

      S8 camera was rated low, Note8 camera is way higher even tho it’s the same
      i guess sammy finally caught up and paid ScamMark like HTShit and Apple did

      • Duel

        S8 hasn’t tested with new upgraded test, so there’s no point to compare old with new

  • turco320

    Samsung Fanboys On Fire xD

  • Martin Jeřábek

    LG V30 destroy N8 and i8. Better low light, better autofocus on video, better stabilization, better zoom (V30 point zoom) etc

    • Igor Rasovic

      Iphone 8 plus is very similar with Iphone 7, LG V30 has very good camera, but Note 8 is much better in low light scene.

    • Nymenon
      • S6isBoss

        he’s a retarded slav Loop Good dicksucker, what to expect. good video.

    • nizmoz

      STFU. Unless DXO tests it, it does not at all. Many tests all have shown the V30 to be behind the N8.

    • S6isBoss

      it’s only gonna destroy itself.. by bootlooping.

    • X X

      LG V30, LG G6 = extremely oversharpened pictures

    • EP_2012

      I haven’t seen this in real world use… low light on the V30 has been disappointing, stabilization hasn’t been the best, point zoom degrades image quality, etc.

  • m10

    Pixel going to destroy both note 8 and i8. ’nuff said

    • S6isBoss

      in not being able to show battery percentage without root? yes

      • milfou

        Oreo has the option. What does that have to do with camera test?

        • S6isBoss

          if you buy a phone because of a single slight advantage (camera) then you’re autistic

          • adsubzero

            If you comment things other than the subject, trying to find excuses for your purchase, then you’re autistic.

          • S6isBoss

            if you have less braincells than IQ (which was already low) and throw back insults while not being able to read properly, then you’re obviously triggered over me saying autist because that’s clearly what you are

          • adsubzero

            First, that guy was right, your comment had nothing to do the topic. Second, it does have an option to show battery percentage without root. And third, you’re a hypocritical samsung fagboy. You were the first to throw insults around, but you’re special anyway, so you deserve the attribude “autistic”.

          • S6isBoss

            >still throws back the insult to defend his mental disorder and his frustration about his virginity because noone wants to fuck a handicap

  • Alvin Zahran Majid

    I’m confused with this new protocol

    • Xda pro

      New protocol = ,$$$$$$$

      • Alvin Zahran Majid

        Oh i see

  • Jsmith8899

    Unless camera manufacturers make bigger sensors, rely entirely on computational photography filling in the blanks, or defy the laws of physics there is not much more they can do.

  • Exynos

    Lol I don’t ever know how the iPhone 8 got same score as the note 8 . … All reviews I’ve watched the note 8 destroyed iPhone 8 ….. Weird 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • X X

      Not true

  • F.F.

    Does this test was made after firmware upgrade of Note 8 (relased 2 days after market launch) that adds 60fps to 4k video and inprove video quality ?
    It’s strange that ”average” score on Video, since all comparsions with the new firmware puts the note 8 video quality way ahead of iPhone 8+ for example.

    • X X

      Yes ,with the new firmware. Way ahead of iPhone 8 and Pixel ? No !

      • F.F.

        lol, see video comparsion… Note 8 has wayy better night video than iPhone8, have dual OIS, faster autofocus on video, so why the score? I know, this website was paid by Apple, and they cannot put a single point more on any Android vs iPhone8, because iPhone8 is already a flop in sales, and if there are websites saying that ”the best mobile camera ever on a smartphone (Apple said)”, it is not.. wow too bad

    • adecvat

      “adds 60fps to 4k”

      No, it is not supported. Don’t lie.

  • Fymf

    what about s8 or you will test it next year

    • X X

      in 2019

      • Steve

        they’ll do the iPhone x2 first

  • “manual adjustment of exposure in Pro mode could improve results significantly, but that requires intervention from the photographer.”
    “Note 8 comes with a dedicated tracking mode that has to be manually enabled and therefore was not included in our test”
    I don’t understand why every phone have to be tested only on auto, why with this new method a pro/manual mode isn’t considered in any way.
    This is beyond retarded, there’s no person alive in 2017 with a top phone like these ones that can touch with their finger a button to photograph and record a video but at the same time can’t touch another button or simply anywhere on the screen to activate an essential function. If they can navigate the interface to use the “bokeh (pff) mode why can’t do this? It’s ridiculous.

    • X X

      Pro mode is for nerds

      • Steve

        And clever people.. thats you out

      • Get Help 👁️ 🐏

        Or people who are clever enough to use it and want the best picture possible.

    • davidletterboyz

      Because iPhone does not have Pro mode.

      • Steve

        Tim cook thinks customers are not clever enough to do it.. Like moving icons to where they want on the screen…
        “Hey Tim we’re thinking of letting our buyers move the icons where they like”
        “Are you crazy, they’ll mess everything up and won’t be able to find our apps. Cancel that update”
        “What about manual controls for the camera.
        “Are you kidding me? We control what we do for them.. Not themselves. Next thing you know they’ll want to organise the icons in the control centre.. They can’t be trusted. Those icons will stay even if they don’t use them.. This isn’t android you know. “

        • Get Help 👁️ 🐏

          Hahaha. Spot on.

  • Ricky Freeman

    Lol at the iFans…the Note 8 has the better camera so whine about that. Note 8 has the better individual scores compared to the latest iphones as well.

    • X X

      Thanks to the oversharpened pictures: visible ringing along contrast edges, color fringing, vignetting, as well as visible maze and moiré artifacts.

      • Hrvoje Stojčić

        For whatever reason, it’s better and nothing will change that fact. Sooner you accept that, easier will be for you.

      • Arkadhana Arsitek

        samsung is the king of oversharpened camera phone

  • Sam Sung

    Its ok for Note8 to have 94, a reasonable score, although was expecting a 96 97
    but still, how would apple explosion-able phone 8 get 94? Same as king Note8!? No mf way
    84 85 seems much more reasonable
    as U11 still wins apple explosion-able phone 8

    • X X

      Stay pressed

  • Get Help 👁️ 🐏

    The apple fanboys will be back to “Samsung paid them” now. But not last week. The pixel 2 xl will probably be higher and then Google will have paid them. LOL.

  • Ting Ik Hon

    “DxO is biased” they said. “Apple paid them” they said.

    • Get Help 👁️ 🐏

      Like Apple fanboys for the last three years until last week said Google / Samsung paid them.

      • Ting Ik Hon

        Yea sure, wait until LG V30 burns the three of them in videography and then look at how fanboys come whining about how LG paid DxO alright?

        • Get Help 👁️ 🐏

          I agree. LG V30 is a beast at video and I personally prefer the wide angle lens over the zoom. It is definitely a top tier contender.

          • Steve

            shush.. don’t tell everyone about the lg phones..i was hoping to get one cheaper while these folks buy the rip off ones.

          • Get Help 👁️ 🐏

            Yeah I really like that phone and what you said previously is spot on: you have to use your brain to get the best pictures using manual mode. True on all these great android phones but the V30 having it on video and the sound puts it miles ahead for video.

          • Steve

            It does.. audio is fantastic on the Lg video..What with the cine log mode and 3 hd microphones ,it’s not even comparable to these two.. dxo won’t test those manual things though.. I expect the LG to be less,on dxo, but so much more in real life…

    • StuFaz

      Apple phone stays at the top of the list of course… and conveniently they posted the review of the Apple iPhone 8 Plus first, even though the Note 8 came out sooner. Still waiting for Samsung S8 review! So yeah… still biased. This phone as a camera for photos, even on their test beats the iPhone. Score 100 v 96. But of course the Apple review title is “The best smartphone camera we’ve ever tested”…. if it was after the Note 8 is would be what? “The (equal) best smartphone camera we’ve ever tested!” Doesn’t sound as good does it. 😉

    • Matthew Langley

      I don’t think Apple paid them though the wording between the iPhone and Note review shows a clear and undeniable bias. I’m not sure what to think of it.

  • Michael Lavi

    Does this mean that the S8 camera test results would be the same? Is there any material difference between the cameras?

    • S6isBoss

      no, S8 scored MUCH lower. Samsung just didn’t pay DxOmark like they did now along with apple and htc

      • Michael Lavi

        Where is the s8 review? Didn’t see it.

        • Matthew Langley

          It hasn’t been retested with the new protocol since Sep 11.

  • Xda pro

    Lol stupid Dxomark.

    have been scared of the talisamsung and have put a 100 lol and in video 84 because they saw as the xzp humiliated iphone and note

    This site is a joke, why no rewiew david cardinal?

  • Xda pro

    Lol yesterday tell stupids ingeniers dxomark than you put 100 to note 8, they obeyed me lolhttps://www.dxomark.com/apple-iphone-8-plus-reviewed-the-best-smartphone-camera-ever-tested-2/

    • Steve

      Can you spell?

  • Steve

    Listen to the video comparison between iPhone 8 and lg v30 on tube. .. The iPhone audio is absolutely terrible.. lg has hd microphones that can record much higher volumes and down to a whisper. It’s not just the look that matters

  • Xda pro

    The stabilitation note 8 no is mediocre?

  • amir rashid

    Sorry I cant believe you anymore, I already compare the photo quality live with my Sony XZ Premium and with my friend Samsung Note 8, the color not accurate very yellowish, the image quality with the same image Sony is more natural and good quality image…Again and again your test still not use the same images and same situation and lighting. DxOMARK try to make a joke with Sony here actually. When DxOMARK want to review again Sony Xperia XZ Premium?

    • Steve

      Either way they’re all Sony cameras. Just in different phones.. Apple doesn’t make anything.. Samsung buys from lots of people..

      my camera is the best.. The money i saved from not buying an iPhone i bought a mint used sony rx100 and an lg v20.

      • amir rashid

        That right man….

    • Xda pro

      This site is a joke, xZ premium have best camera of market only than Sony no paid and rewiew by david cardinal Fanboy apple paid.

      • amir rashid

        Something wrong with the new protocol test here seriously. 100 mark for photo with Samsung Note 8 hahaha… What a joke…..

        • Xda pro

          They sniff pegament!!

          • amir rashid

            There is something wrong…

    • Xda pro

      Xz premium destroy camera note 8 they but put same score in video lol

      https://youtu.be/lrnmFwd0mOU

      https://youtu.be/aYAKUDM7L0w

      Rewiers dxomarks are retards

      • amir rashid

        Yes I dont believe this DxOMARK anymore from now on seriously….

    • remydlc

      IMO and experience, Sony picutres look fine in their phone, when you take them out into a computer or other device, they dont look as good or sharp. I used to have the Z2 a while ago, it was great, but was never ahead of the pack. Sony Camera/imaging software lacks big time behind the others.

      • amir rashid

        Not any more nowadays…

        • remydlc

          it is still behind, i mean the independent/real life reviews online or in yt shows Sony is not a top 5 camera phone. let alone compare with the top 2. I wished for a long time they would have improved and they did not. Now they are behind in many departments i wish they could have changed their design a bit.

          • amir rashid

            Nope just go get it and try it by your own and you will fill there is something wrong with the review on the internet mostly…

    • Muse M

      On which devices did you compare? On mobiles or laptops with proper colours correction? Monitors has display DCI-P3 profile is the right place to start.

      • amir rashid

        On mobile and on laptop screen…

    • flodxomark

      Dear Amir, We have designed our DxOMark scoring system with one obsession: develop and implement a robust test protocol which can be accurately repeated time after time, and thus all devices we test are treated the same way.
      Please find more about our new DxOMark Mobile test protocol here:
      https://www.dxomark.com/introducing-the-new-dxomark-mobile-test-protocol/

      • amir rashid

        Thanks for reply, but seriously one again I DONT BELIEVE DXOMARK ANYMORE from now on seriously… So unfair your new test protocol…

  • Pls review V30 and Huawei mate 10 pro as soon as they are available pls… I’m in the market for these best camera phone. Tq =)

    • Steve

      The lg v30 is the best but you have to work at it. For that reason it won’t come top. These tests won’t use manual settings. That’s where the lg shines.. Lg let’s you do video manual settings too..

  • Seassee

    How to compare with old score such as Note 8 vs HTC U11 no have Zoom , Bokeh score? How I know what the best actually.

    • S.H.U.R.O.

      HTC U11 better, believe me. You just only have not the second camera, that`s alll

      • Arkadhana Arsitek

        indeed

    • TechieXP

      Go use them and you can decide what is best for you.

      • Steve

        Exactly

      • Seassee

        If every one need to know what the best phone by bought and use it, the review is make for? should i buy every phone to know what the best phone, right? What the review useful?

  • Arkadhana Arsitek

    after pixelpeeping and comparing every picture, htc 11 is still waaay better than this overrated phone. i guess htc didnt pay as much as sammy did.

  • eternal

    Excellent comparison and accurate scores:
    https://imgur.com/a/CWw46

  • DE

    I don’t even know what to believe anymore I watched camera comparison of Note 8 and S8 https://youtu.be/aDG3WubV3IM seems to me there’s no difference as the tech guy mentioned, too many confusion I want to buy a good camera phone, not sure of what to do now…

    • Evanovici

      perhaps you’d be better off with an actual camera

      • DE

        I guess so, but I want a phone with good camera I don’t mind paying the price.

        • Steve

          if you have no interest in using your brain and being creative buy the iPhone. if you’re looking for great photos with the settings you choose and worked to get, buy the lg v30.

          • DE

            Since my last experience with LG G3 blue screen of death, I dnt think I will chance it, it’s either Samsung Note 8 or iPhone X.

          • Steve

            i can understand that. that’s why i now buy lg.. they give 2 year warranty and are cheap because of yours and many people’s trust issues. keep that opinion because i got the lg v20 brand new for £256 six months after release.. I’m hoping i can do the same with the v30. look at the comparison on the audio on the iPhone video. the note and lg are much better. the iPhone sounds terrible

          • Steve
          • DE

            £256 brand New? Tell me you joking…

          • Steve

            it’s now £265 because of exchange rate.
            https://www.eglobalcentral.co.uk/#/product/19337

          • Steve

            i bought an lg v20 for the audio. it’s quad dac audio is the best in a phone. i bought a Moto z play ,with free speaker mod, for the battery life and a used Sony rx100 for less than one iPhone.

          • DE

            I hope LG v30 price goes down, maybe I will chance LG again.

          • Steve

            it will go down.. if you Google it the v20 only had a couple of bootloop breakdowns out of millions sold.. one was put down to a bad charger. I’ve dropped my v20 4 times. it has dinks on every corner and just bounces and keeps working.. I’ll never buy anything else because the headphone audio is outstanding. also recording has 3 hd microphones.. it’s amazing. it’s a real powerhouse plus the wide camera is better than those 2x zoom gimmicks

          • Steve
        • remydlc

          Wait for the Pixel. It’s a year old and still kicking ass. Is better than most of this phone, unless you are taking portrait, which is not pixel strehnght due to not having dual cameras.

          • DE

            I was told Google will discontinue pixel once pixel 2 is launch today.

          • remydlc

            hmm not sure about that, the truth is they had a hard time keeping up with its demand, so doubht they will make any more. but i meant to get the new pixel, im sure the pixel 2 (xl) will be an improvement over the old one. These two (or 3 with the iphone x) might be on the top for as long it takes for the Pixel 2 XL to be on sale.

    • Get Help 👁️ 🐏

      Simple. If you like iOS better get the iPhone 8 or x. If not get the note 8, pixel 2, galaxy s8 or LG V30.

      • DE

        I think I will stay with Android, though price of an iPhone x is not the problem here.

  • Golden Boy

    You know it’s funny… I read the article, and it’s well articulated and thought out, with careful phrasing and at least a competent level of professionalism…

    And then I read the comments, and it’s full of people who curse, throw shade, insult, accuse and are generally abusive to each other, and I think to myself: DXOMARK work so hard on their reviews, regardless of whether you agree with them or not, and this is their audience? A bunch of insecure kids who can’t wait to accuse them of how much they suck?

    Why do they even bother doing this?

    • TechieXP

      Because no matter how much good you do, idiots will always exist.
      Just ignore the idiots. They are just fanboys of other brands and when a brand they don’t like is treated with fairness, if they don’t agree they have an issue with it. Since you can’t please everyone, don’t try to please anyone. Just do your things and the results will simply speak for themselves.

      • Steve

        we all have an opinion though. i use Apple and android.. we are allowed to disagree with results if we disagree heartedly. otherwise we’d just believe fake news. it’s good for freedom of speech

    • Steve

      money

  • Artem Larionov

    Please make weights of every category public so I could exclude “Zoom” and “Bokeh” from score, cause I can’t care less about these.

  • Богдан тет

    What about LG V30? I’m waiting…

    • remydlc

      good video phone, but pictures sucks so far, and is not out yet.

      • Steve

        depends which site you look on and it’s pure pre release software on any but Korea

    • LG is a overhyped trash only worshipped by the Internet Android warriors of America.

    • GCHQ

      Oversharpened +200

  • Moisés

    Test front cam too

  • Jack Tsui

    wow 100points for photo, looking forward to over 100 points in next year lol

    • Jack Tsui

      for reference: below is the score of photo without flash , zoom , bokeh

      Note8: 76.17
      U11:76.67
      Pixel:75.5
      Ip8: 74.33

    • ‘m wondering, does it even make sense?

  • Dimitris Abrazis

    100 points to photo means 100 points to every single division of the score. 45 to bokeh, problems in white balance, etc. How can it get 100? Biased grading?

    • Abdurrahman Al Sheyyab

      I think that i’ve read before that the scores are not percent, so iPhone X, Pixel 2 XL or a future phone could surpass 100.

      • Steve

        if course they could. no camera is 100% not even a £5000 one. 100 is just a score

    • Stefan

      If you apply some intellect, it’s obvious that some sub-scores carry more weight than others. It’s not calculated by adding up all the sub-scores and dividing it by the # of sub-scores. Neither is 100 points the maximum.

      • Dimitris Abrazis

        Still 100 score means perfect on every aspect. Even the little details.

        • Stefan

          No it doesn’t. 100 is just a number. You need to put that out of your head and look at the scoring system for what it is. It is a limitless scoring system, which is perfect because the score is timeless, it will still be comparable to reviews years from now. What if they did score “out of 100”, would 80 out of a 100 today be the same quality as another camera that got the same score of 80 three years down the road? Of course not. I’m glad they don’t use a ‘gold’, ‘silver’ etc, stars or “points out of 10 or 100” scoring systems.

    • *Paid Grading.

    • Steve

      against whom!

    • Xda pro

      depends on the type of drugs they take this day they put score.

    • amir rashid

      Yes you are right, totally rubbish test protocol with different images different situation for the different brand. I really dont believe this DxOMARK test any more from now on so biased…….

    • GCHQ

      💲💶💵 Money !!!

    • GCHQ

      True

    • GCHQ

      Paul Carroll should be fired

  • remydlc

    Enjoy the crown, i can see the iphone X taking one extra point, but the Pixel will bring it home again by a mile 🙂 (hopefully lol)

    • And I can see Galaxy S9 go even further.

    • Steve

      the iPhone x has the same camera. the AR is a different thing. i know what you mean though. dxo will forget the other phones, that have been released earlier, and say the iPhone x is the best for release day. like it did with the pixel ,the IPhone 8 plus etc

      • remydlc

        the thing is that the X has OIS on both of its back cameras, the 8+ only on one of them so in theory all it’s low light portrait and other shots shoudl be slightly better than the 8+.

        • Steve

          it’s a lower aperture though so will never beat the main lens.

          • remydlc

            Steve, but wouldnt make its portrait better? or better zooming? which were one of the main points vs the 8+.

          • Steve

            yes i agree to an extent but due to zoom camera having the much higher aperture it still wouldn’t be great compared to zooming in with the main camera.. some videos are on YouTube and the main camera using digital zoom is better than the zoom one because of lower aperture. lower and higher meaning aperture levels.
            it might be closer but the picture will be worse with the zoom camera. they should make them both the same aperture. lg is getting closer to doing it with their wide lens

          • remydlc

            Thanks for the explanation and insight.

          • Steve

            youre welcome. some might disagree. i hate digital zoom and if both lens were the same aperture then it would be a great photo with the zoom.. dxo refused to test the 7 plus for that reason. the zoom lens would always be a worse camera than the main one because of aperture. they stated that. they changed the test since then so i guess you could test zoom lens against zoom lens.. they wouldn’t be amazing though. closer but not amazing

          • Steve

            pixel just blasted both of these away. score of 96

          • Chris Allen

            Photo scores: 100 for Note 8 and 99 for Pixel 2.

          • Steve

            with only 1 lens. it took Samsung 1 extra lens for 1 extra point. that’s not a win in my book

  • Stefan

    It’s really funny to see people so caught up in the overall scores. The overall scores are based on reviewing the entire “camera system”, that includes the lens(es), flash, sensor(s) and software/firmware implementation and its effectiveness. It’s doesn’t mean that because you pixel peeped and got better perceived resolution from the HTC samples that it all of a sudden has to have a better overall score. Lmao. What about all the other components/functions that make up the camera system? You can calm your nuts though, cause the HTC did score higher in the Exposure & Contract, in the Color and in the Texture (sharpness) sub-scores compared to the Note8.

    • GCHQ

      HTC U11 is better than the Note 8

  • Chris

    Umm, how did this testing not get done BEFORE the iPhone 8 testing? After all the Note 8 came out FIRST.

    • Daniel Hart

      So they can write headlines like this: “Apple iPhone 8 Plus reviewed: The best smartphone camera we’ve ever tested”

      • Steve

        for a week. pixel just beat both

      • shm224

        @disqus_2Ks3wT8Jc8:disqus : DXOmark is hoping nobody would notice this. Just look at the overall underwhelming undertone of the Note 8 review, even as the phone received the highest mark for mobile devices for Photography camera.

    • Ken Cheng

      • Steve

        boo hoo

    • S6isBoss

      they’re sponsored by apple, of course they will be corrupt

  • GCHQ

    Visible ringing along contrast edges, color fringing, vignetting, as well as visible maze and moiré artifacts.

    Oversharpened and oversaturated pictures. The Note 8 doesn’t deserve 94

    • amir rashid

      Yes you are right….

    • Geesha Gehan Anurad

      agreed!

  • Love-America

    Samsung note 8 rules….great phone

    • Steve

      it did for a day. pixel just beat both

      • Juan

        It won overall, but the Note 8 still has the highest rating in overall photo quality. It struggles in video, though.

        • Steve

          with half the camera lens of apple and Samsung. I’d say that’s a win for Google..

          • Juan

            That’s a very good point.

          • Steve

            wonder what score they’d have gotten with 2 lens?

    • Therealestmc

      Not in camera it doesn’t. It has the same score as the iPhone. The Pixel is better than both.

      • Chris Allen

        The photo scores were 100 for Note 8 and 96 for iPhone.

  • GCHQ

    👎

  • tor
    • Steve

      pixel just beat both

    • MS_Scorpio

      U11 definitely captures far more detail than any Samsung and Apple phones from all the comparisons I’ve seen yet because HTC is no longer a famous brand, the reviews are always biased towards the larger brands.

      • tor

        Exactly!!

  • CyBrix_21

    I believe the video scores should be explained more thoroughly including comparisons with other top cameras. Just how worse Note 8’s video compared to iPhone 8 Plus and Pixel 2?

    • Steve

      don’t worry about it now.. Google pixel was just released and beats both. i do think audio should be tested with video too though

      • CyBrix_21

        You probably missed the Pixel 2 on my post. Time for an X-way direct comparison between the top devices.

        • Steve

          i wouldn’t touch the iPhone on video. the audio is horrendous. reasonable video with audio filmed underwater

          • CyBrix_21

            You have said it, yet iPhone 8 has a higher score in video than Note 8. Basically, their comparison says that iPhone 8 is better than Note 8. But how?

            They are pretty wordy with their iPhone 8 and Note 8’s explanations. Since Pixel 2 has a more in-depth comparison, the explanations for these devices should be updated as well.

          • Steve

            i think they should show how they got to their point.video is ok on iPhone if you don’t want to hear anything..a great kids Christmas play with awful audio. don’t you think that should count also.

          • CyBrix_21

            That should. Video nowadays is not just image frames per second. But since these guys look like image nerds, I will leave that to other reviews.

          • Steve

            it’s what suits really.. i like the wide screen of the lg than the zoom of the note.. you can’t compare those because they’re different tech

          • CyBrix_21

            Well, that’s where individual point comes in.

  • Ken Cheng

    why did you guys skip on the S8/S8+?

    • Steve

      they didn’t. it’ll get retested

  • Matthew Langley

    “Although autofocus is fast and stable in many videos, the lack of any autofocus tracking in default mode reduced the overall score. It should be mentioned, though, that the Note 8 comes with a dedicated tracking mode that has to be manually enabled and therefore was not included in our test.”

    Really would be curious how it would fare if this was enabled.

    • Gieffe22

      lol but in any case tracking focus is not present on iphone and pixel camera’s, so i really don’t understand the reason to give just 60 point on focus score in video just for a plus tracking mode hidden on settings LOL… mah

      • Matthew Langley

        Well in the IP8+ review they said this in the video comparison.

        “Exceptionally good face tracking also aids in accurate subject exposure.”

        So it seems like the iPhone enables face tracking by default. This isn’t a negative of the Note 8 though, not everyone wants to face track in videos, especially if you are videoing multiple people, an environment, etc. They should’ve just enabled that simple option for the Note 8 to compare and should compare tracking and non-tracking modes on both phones so you can be clear what does better in each scenario.

        Dxomark really compromises their mobile reviews a lot. For a long time that was fine since mobile cameras were pretty simple, but they are gaining a lot of ground and deserve more complex reviews taking advantage of some of the options that are easily used to evaluate what people will actually use the camera for. By not doing so they are only reviewing for people who never touch any options at all, something drastically changing as smartphone cameras have become far more powerful and complex with more tools and options.

        All that is mostly about methodology and incidentally penalizing cameras that might have useful options off by default. I don’t think it’s deliberate though they really need to update their protocol to account for some of these options and doing more apples to apples comparisons vs never touch an option comparison. I’m surprised they didn’t accommodate for this with their new testing protocol.

        • Gieffe22

          If i’m not wrong face detection focus and exposure is totally auto on samsung devices (a yellow circle on face-s when detected). So… even in this casa dxo explanation for score is not correct.

          Mah mistery ahhaah (or not $$$)

  • Gieffe22

    “Although autofocus is fast and stable in many videos, the lack of any autofocus tracking in default mode reduced the overall score.”

    Basically this is the reason for 94 points, LOL. Iphone 8 have an autofocus tracking? i think NO, and have 80 on focus on video, not 60. No comment.

    This is by far the most complete smartphone camera at this time, and for this stupid mistake here have the same score of a middle range overrated camera (iphone 8) and of pixel 2 that actually is a bit less good than note 8.

  • Juan Gutierrez

    This is not correct, look at how bad the iPhone 8+ did on the Asian man at 5lux on the pixel 2 review. Then go to the iPhone 8+ review and it’s much better looking

  • Aleksey Efimik

    I’m pretty sure dxomark was paid by Google to release this review one day before Pixel event and decrease overall score for this amazing camera.
    I will never trust Dxomark again. Will have to do my own comparison.

    • flodxomark

      Hello Aleksey. We have designed our DxOMark scoring system with one obsession: develop and implement a robust test protocols which can be accurately repeated time after time, so that all devices we test are treated the same way.
      Please find more about our new DxOMark Mobile test protocol here:
      https://www.dxomark.com/introducing-the-new-dxomark-mobile-test-protocol/

      • Chris Larios

        Reply with your words, not with a biased comment from a copy paste base.

        • flodxomark

          Dear Chris, I tried to give the most precise answer to this reader. We will be pleased to answer any questions you may have as well. Regards

  • Paul Teodorescu

    Why is the algorithm for the overall mark not similar from Apple to Samsung? The calculations for Google Pixel 2, iPhone 8 and Note 8 show that according to the new algorithm the photo part counts for 2/3 of the overall mark while video is 1/3. Doing the math for iPhone 8, I have 96+96+89=281, divided by 3 is 93.66. The same goes for Samsung and I have 100+100+84=284, divided by 3 is 94.66. How on earth are these two marks rounded in the end at 94 each, and Apple being on top of the rankings?

  • amir rashid

    PLEASE ANYONE HERE DO NOT BELIEVE DXOMARK ANYMORE FROM NOW ON.TOTALLY RUBBISH NEW TEST PROTOCOL FROM DXOMARK 2017. LINK BELOW AS A REAL PROOF:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egk2jJpPjC4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3743LdayXiA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2V25lazeBU

    • Damien

      lol, I find DxO’s reviews to be somewhat sketchy and leaning in a certain direction, and I think perhaps the XZ1 deserved slightly higher but did you watch this video? It seems the XZ1 isn’t very good with sharpness and color accuracy. It also doesn’t have great dynamic range.

  • Damien

    It would seem that the Note 8 picked a slightly lighter exposure for the car gallery scene, explaining why the clouds were slightly blown out.
    https://imgur.com/a/8BwzC

  • MS_Scorpio

    I have the Note 8 and I am honestly very disappointed in the camera because although the photos look nice when zoomed out, once you zoom in, you can see how it loses detail compared to even my Huawei Nexus 6p, a phone that is 2 years older and was meant as a cheap temporary phone to hold me over from the Note 7 fiasco to the Note 8. The Nexus 6p with the modded Camera NX app based on Pixel algorithm captures sharper details than the Note 8. This is from several hundreds of comparison photos I took and hours of comparison. The Note 8 only looks nice when zoomed out because of the saturated colors and oversharpening.

    Look at this comparison and you can see how the HTC U11 is the only phone that can read text in the map and makeout far more texture than the Note 8, yet the U11 only scores 90 while the Note 8 and Iphone 8 scores 94 at DXOMARK.
    https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=4&idPhone1=8505&idPhone2=8630&idPhone3=8131

    • Matthew Langley

      The U11 wins in some of the bright light areas but the Note 8 wins nearly all of the low light areas… Also the Note 8 clearly captures more detail than the iPhone 8 Plus. Compared to the Nexus 6p on gsmarena the Note 8 clearly wins as well. What are you looking at.

      • MS_Scorpio

        What? The U11 wins in all of the bright light and low light comparisons over the Note 8. Just look carefully at the details that U11 retains but the Note 8 just smears it out for the sake of noise control to give you a false perception of a good camera.

  • Baron Von Rhett

    Yes it can?

  • Matthew Langley

    Another good comparison by phone arena
    https://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-smartphone-cameras-compared-iPhone-8-Plus-vs-Galaxy-Note-8-LG-G6-Xperia-XZ1_id98440

    This and the gsm arena excellent comparison tool really show the Note 8 to be superior nearly all around to the iPhone 8 Plus. I’m curious how dxomark came to such a different conclusion.

    • MS_Scorpio

      Actually to me the Iphone 8 looks slightly better than the Note 8 in GSM Arena’s excellent comparison tool because the Note 8 loses too much detail from the post processing. However both the Iphone 8 and Note 8 pails in comparison to the HTC U11. The U11 captures far more detail than both

      • Matthew Langley

        I simply don’t believe you… the Note 8 *clearly* captures more detail than the iPhone 8 Plus, especially in low light but in most of the bright light. There’s some variation across the frame, as there is with any camera sensor + lens, but you can see so much more detail in so many more areas in the Note 8 picture in both bright light and low light, details that are *completely* lost on the iPhone 8 Plus. The clearest wins for the Note 8 are the sponge bob (I mean it’s remarkable how much better it does in either light), the bills, especially in the lines around the word “ten” on the English 10 pound and the London map. Multiple other areas are clear wins for the Note 8 with only a couple going to the iPhone 8 Plus. It’s simply the case.

        The U11, it gives the Note 8 a better run for it’s money (though again the Note 8 is clearly better than the iPhone 8 Plus, in bright light but especially in low light). Some areas are better than each other. At least in bright light. The Note 8 takes a *clear* edge in low light.

        Again if you look at bright light and low light you simply can’t come away not giving the Note 8 the win more often than either of the others, especially the iPhone 8 Plus with the U11 being close in bright light (maybe winning overall) and the Note 8 clearly winning in low light.

        • MS_Scorpio

          Nope the U11 is FAARRR superior to the the Note 8 under bright light. Just compare the text and fabric texture without any personal bias towards Samsung and you will see how the U11’s camera is far superior. Under low light the Note 8’s post processing does help in significantly reducing noise giving you a perception of enhanced detail although the U11 does capture a bit more detail at some locations; but I would give Note 8 the win in the low light comparison.

          • Matthew Langley

            Note it’s not “FAARRR” superior despite how many caps you use lol. I said the U11 wins more in bright light and I stand by that and agree… The biggest win is the map. The fabric is a small win, the same details are seen but the rendition is a bit more pleasant in the U11 though not necessarily more detail. A lot of other areas are a toss up though, like the money, where you can see the Note 8 uses too much contrast (and is a bit aggressive on noise reduction) and the U11 does too much sharpening (edge contrast) which gives some of the edges extra artifacts. Don’t mix up different rendering of the same details with lost details… a lot of settings can be tweaked on these cameras (while the iPhone 8 Plus requires separate apps to control a lot of these things) and if they hold the same details you can post-process them in the direction more pleasant to you or again just tweak their own processing settings.

            The U11 again wins the bright light a bit… One of the best areas to look is the line pattern behind “The Bank of England” in that circle… both fine lines but at angles outward… you can see both the Note 8 and U11 capture the same detail (while the iPhone 8 Plus does poor in this).

            Switch to low light and the Note 8 wins with a significant lead… that whole area turns a blurry mess on the U11, any other areas are the same. Here the iPhone 8 plus actually beats the U11 in low light while the Note 8 clearly dominates both by a significant margin. In other online comparisons this low light advantage to the Note 8 gets even starker in more extreme real world low light scenarios where the Note 8 dominates the iPhone 8 Plus.

            So I’m sorry you need to step back and do a full comparison objectively. The U11 wins bright light with a small margin and *heavy* nitpicking (mostly a more pleasant processing of the details, while capturing a tiny bit more detail in certain scenarios), while the Note 8 obviously wins the low light with the U11 turning a lot of details to blurry mess with little nitpicking.

            Further this started as an iPhone 8 Plus comparison conversation and you can see the Note 8 beats the iPhone 8 Plus both in bright light and especially in low light (and beats both in low light clearly).

          • MS_Scorpio

            I’m not sure if you are looking at the same image as I am because the details in the U11 image is significantly higher than the Note 8. The U11 wins beats the Note 8 under the bright light comparison much more than the Note 8’s slight win in low light. You really got to see this thing without any personal bias. I know you are very pro Samsung and I’ve own more Samsung phones than any other phones so I am speaking what I see without any bias. I never even owned a HTC phone but I’m just stating my true objective observation and that is the HTC U11’s camera is superior.

          • Matthew Langley

            I’m sorry, you are wrong. If you compare Note 8 and U11 in bright light on the 10 pound note with the lines behind the “Bank of England” and “ten”, you can see them both resolve the lines that slant well (the iPhone 8 Plus does not). The U11 has a slight advantage. Thens switch to low light and it’s like night and day, the U11 loses a *massive* amount of detail. I’m sorry if you say you can’t see that stark difference in low light in the Note’s favor and only a very subtle difference in the U11’s favor in bright light I simply think you are lying. It’s stark and undeniable. The iPhone 8 Plus does better in this area than the U11 but still far worse than the Note 8.

            I am not very pro Samsung lol… I’ve owned one iPhone, two HTC phones, and two Samsungs. They all were great. I am simply for objective comparisons and the Note 8 is significantly better in low light, especially at resolving details. The U11 is a bit more pleasant in bright light and resolves a bit more detail in certain areas, some more than others, though nowhere as start as that low light comparison I just referenced.

  • Bee4Bells

    Can anyone make me understand how these two shots (with visually equal focal length) were shot at 8x zoom (left) and 2x zoom (right)?
    https://i.imgur.com/3a69GFp.jpg

    • Aprs98

      The right one is also at 8x zoom, the mention of 2x is just to explain how is the iphone in relation to the note at that level of zoom

  • Bee4Bells

    Also I am struggling to understand if my math is wrong or DxOMark’s. I have reread the new protocol articles of DxOMark but could find anything how they calculated the total composite score. Only thing I understood is that it is not the “average” of the sub scores

  • MS_Scorpio

    I’ve been thinking how can the Note 8 camera possibly score this high being a Note 8 owner that is disappointed with the performance after hours of testing the Note 8 side by side with an ancient Nexus 6P with modded camera app.

    I’m thinking that Samsung might have paid DXOmark. If you do your research online, Samsung is the ONLY company that was caught, fined in court, and admitted themselves, for paying review sites and hiring netizens to write fake reviews and posting on forums/comment sections to trash competitor products and promote/support Samsung products.

  • Kristijan Milosevski

    Where is test for Samsung galaxy s8 and s8 plus?

  • Abes52

    Hey, Look at the Exif data on all images. You will see, that “Software” tag = Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 6.10.
    Does it mean images were processed by Adobe software???
    How could I believe in all they published after that?…

  • Rassalas

    I’ll take the model.

  • Benjamin Agerriis

    One not so great thing about the Camera on Note 8 Is if you love to shoot pictures in 16:9 you can only do that in 9,1 megapixel i came from a S6 Edge+ witch was capable to shoot 16:9 in 16 megapixel

  • hm

    I do not see much report on Note 8 lens flare or ghosting. When shooting with presence of light sources like street lamps or at the Moon, there is greenish reflection. In video, this reflection moves as the light source moves. Is this a prominent problem with Samsung Note 8?

    • MS_Scorpio

      I had the Note 8 and took literally hundreds of comparison pics under the same condition with my Nexus 6P. When you have distinct bright and dark areas, the Note 8 completely overexposes the bright area and you get very little detail whereas the Nexus 6P captures much more detail in both the dark and bright areas. The Note 8’s camera is very disappointing for me. I’m surprised it got this high of a score.

      • madcanada

        Install ported Google Camera, the difference is in the algorithms. Upgraded from Nexus 6p myself, and shot comparison shots as well. With ported Google Camera you’re getting better image on Note 8.

        • MS_Scorpio

          You need to copy the photos and compare them side by side on the monitor. The Nexus 6P screen is much darker than the Note 8 screen. On my 4k monitor, the 6p photos definitely have more detail than the Note 8 photos. But the Note 8 photos have more saturated colors and slightly brighter so they are more attractive if you are just glancing at the photos without zooming in.

          • madcanada

            you misunderstand. you should install ported Google Camera on Note 8 and then compare pictures from the ported Google Camera on Note 8 vs Stock Camera on Note 8. The overblown highlights on photos taken with Stock Camera on Note 8 is the effect of the algorithm, it does not overexpose the highlights with ported Google Camera. Photos from the ported Google Camera on Note 8 are easily better than those from Nexus 6p in terms of colour and detail. Try it.

          • MS_Scorpio

            Interesting, I wasn’t aware of a ported google camera for the Note 8. Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll go look it up. Which version are you using?

          • madcanada

            Mine is the Modded Google Camera 4.4, I’m on Snapdragon version. If you google “ported Google camera” it will give you a plenty of versions, one I’d recommend is the one that would have all-in-one in the name. There you can do plenty of things like adjusting the actual HDR+ algorithm. Some settings will work, others will crash the app, but you can tinker.

          • MS_Scorpio

            Thanks. I installed the 5.0 version on my Note 8 and took a bunch of comparison shots. It is a major improvement over the stock Samsung camera app. I can see details/textures now that cannot be seen in the stock camera and the overblown highlight issue with the stock camera has been solved. It even manages to edge out my Nexus 6P in some areas wrt details/textures. But downside is that it takes a second or more to take a pic whereas the stock camera app takes photos instantaneously. I guess I will use the google camera app for work purposes and the samsung camera for less important photos. I’ve been always complaining about the poor image details on the Note 8 camera, so thanks for the heads up.

          • madcanada

            you’re welcome. the Google Camera (at least some versions of it) do have the same zero-lag HDR as Pixel did. the way that algorithm works is that it takes shots as soon as you start up the camera and just selects the photos around the time you pressed the shutter button. the drawback of that is the fact that while you do get to merge a number of photos, those discrete photos do come with the settings pre-programmed into the camera (shutter speed and iso settings that is), meaning that the exposure of each individual photo isn’t ideal. the HDR+ is a higher quality algorithms, as each photo is measured in accordance with your environment, not snapping pictures with preset settings as it rolls. I use it pretty much the same way: the maximum image quality with Google Camera, or maximum speed when needed with the stock app. I also strongly recommend trying Lightroom App, they have HDR Raw camera, it spits out 3.2MP raw file with 40 Mb of information. The colour retention with those files is phenomenal, as is the dynamic range.

  • Paul Teodorescu

    “In backlit portraits, faces are underexposed, while the background is overexposed.” – well, if you tap to focus on the background the metering will be calculated on the background, if you tap on the face (portrait), the focus and metering will be on the face – AND ACCURATE. Where did you tap? This is something my S7 Edge is doing for years and you want to tell me that Note 8 sucks at that? Well, not if you tap on the screen where you should.
    (from chapter Exposure & Contrast – 82, while S7 Edge has 90)

  • Matt W

    Despite having ordered the phone that beat both of these in the DXOmark scores, I simply don’t agree with it being the best smartphone camera on the market, nor did I last year. DXO missed the widely discussed lens flare on the original pixel, and appears to be blind to the fact that it creates artifacts in the new Portrait mode. I will say it is better than the Note 8 in this regard, but both fail to produce a true looking bokeh (or depth of field) without looking like some kind software filter being smeared over the rest of the images. While the iPhone 8 doesn’t produce as much blur in the background in some tests, at least it doesn’t look artificial. While it is personal preference on things going forward, I am of the opinion that Samsung shots are over sharpened, and tend to favor warmer white balance than it really should. One thing I have always liked about the iPhone shots I have taken, is how neutral it’s AWB is, giving me more room to edit shots as needed. That said, I know most people would just prefer have the image pop right off the camera, regardless of how artificial it looks. — At the end of the day, they are all really good cameras, with each having a different take on machine learning, and image processing. I guess it is just good that all of these phones have really awesome cameras (compared to even some P&S cameras). It is great that these companies are pushing each other to new heights.

  • Hann

    How about lg v30 no review score yet?
    I just want to know where v30 place with this two smartphone- google pixel 2 xl and huawei mate 10 pro.. waiting for this asap.

  • Joimer Jesus Ruiz Perez

    I want review lg v30, it is very good, please.

  • Leon94

    We want the review of LG V30

  • Rahul Layek

    Please do a test for Xiaomi Mi 6

  • Alfa Tegar Pancoba

    Where’s the S7 edge? I think it’s one of the best 🙁

  • Ps

    This is a live test between iPhone X vs Galaxy Note 8 Camera Test Comparison, it states something differences than the ratings on here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIt7SBOmpKs

    • MS_Scorpio

      I don’t trust any comparisons from SuperSaf. His comparisons are always out of line from other reviewers and he gets phones impossibly sooner than anyone else. Probably some of the fakest comparisons you will see.

      • jason randazzo

        You’re insane supersaf does a lot of great reviews just because the results didn’t come up the way you wanted them doesn’t mean that he does bad reviews you can see for yourself.