LG V30: Camera’s good, life’s good

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Launched in August 2017, the LG V30 is the Korean manufacturer’s latest flagship smartphone, offering a dual-camera setup and some interesting photography features. The primary camera boasts a 16Mp Sony IMX351 1/3.1″ sensor, coupled to a fast f/1.6 real glass lens with a 70-degree field of view and Optical Image Stabilization (OIS). For the second camera, LG opted for a super-wide-angle shooter, as opposed to a monochrome sensor or a telephoto lens preferred by many rivals. Built around a 13Mp Samsung sensor with 1µm pixel size, the V30’s secondary camera offers a 120-degree ultra-wide-angle field of view. That makes it a good choice for smartphone photographers interested in landscape or architectural shots, as opposed to portraits, but there’s no OIS in the second lens.

For video enthusiasts, the V30 boasts 4K 2160p@30fps movie capture and LOG format, which enables advanced color grading in post production, point-zoom focus to zoom and focus anywhere within the frame, and a range of cinematic filter effects for all you budding Kubrics. You can compose and review via the V30’s large 6.0-inch QHD, OLED HDR FullVision display with a 18:9 aspect ratio. Thanks to a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 chipset, the V30 also packs plenty of processing power for photography and other tasks.

Key camera specifications:

  • 16Mp primary camera with f/1.6 glass lens
  • 13Mp secondary camera with ultra-wide-angle f/1.9 lens
  • 3-axis OIS for primary camera lens
  • Phase detection and laser autofocus
  • LED flash
  • 4K 2160p@30fps or 1080p@30/60fps video capture
  • LOG-format video

About DxOMark Mobile tests: For scoring and analysis in our smartphone camera reviews, DxOMark engineers capture and evaluate over 1500 test images and more than 2 hours of video both in controlled lab environments and in natural indoor and outdoor scenes. This article is designed to highlight the most important results of our testing. For more information about the DxOMark Mobile test protocol, click here.

Test summary

The LG V30 achieves a Photo score of 87 points and is a very capable device for smartphone still photography. Although a little behind some of the top devices we’ve tested, 87 is a very good score considering the V30, unlike many of its direct rivals, does not feature an optical tele-zoom nor a bokeh mode, which would have increased the score if implemented well. Its strengths for still photos are punchy exposures, vivid color, good fine detail preservation, and well-controlled noise in low light. In fact, the V30 outperforms some top-ranking devices such as the iPhone X and the Samsung Note 8 for texture preservation and noise. Add to that excellent autofocus performance in low light, and the V30 is a versatile still camera in many environments. Unfortunately, at 73 points, the V30’s video mode cannot quite keep up with the LG’s still performance, dropping the device down a few spots in our ranking, with an overall score of 82 points.

Bright light

The LG V30 captures its best exposures outdoors in well-balanced lighting conditions. In tricky high-contrast scenes, the dynamic range can be a little limited in the shadows, but even in challenging scenes, highlight detail is well-preserved. Outdoor exposures generally display punchy contrast for a nice overall feel, despite the loss of some detail in the darker tones. Color rendering is good, if not exceptional, with reasonably bold and vivid hues. White balance is generally accurate, too, and although a slight green color cast is visible in cloudy conditions, shifting to pink in sunny weather, the casts aren’t offensive.

Fine detail preservation is also a plus for the V30, particularly in static scenes, making it a good option for landscape or architectural photography. Autofocus is a little slow to trigger outdoors; however, it’s actually quicker in low-light conditions, which makes capturing the decisive moment for moving subjects challenging. Add to that less texture preservation in scenes with subject movement, and you really need very bright light for sharp action photos on the V30. A buildup of a coarse luminance noise is evident in areas of uniform color in the V30’s outdoor shots, too, but it’s only really visible upon close inspection and is less problematic in areas of intricate detail.

The V30’s outdoor exposures are generally very good, with bold color rendition, but its limited dynamic range can result in fairly dark shadow areas even when shooting in relatively well-balanced lighting conditions.

Low light and Flash

The V30 is a very capable smartphone for low-light photography, recording accurate exposures, vivid color, accurate white balance, and high levels of detail. Test chart exposures in the lab were excellent down to 20 Lux, good at 5 Lux, and although underexposed at 1 Lux, still exploitable. In static indoor scenes, texture is also very good, with the V30 offering a good compromise between noise reduction and sharpness. Scenes with subject motion are a little more challenging for the V30 to preserve good detail, however. Autofocus is excellent in low light, consistently achieving sharp focus quickly and accurately. Flash photos do disappoint, however, with a strong purple color cast visible at all times. The flash is well-centered, covering the frame with minimal corner shading, and results are repeatable, but if flash is important, better smartphones are available.

The V30 records nice exposures, with vivid color, accurate white balance, low noise and good texture in low-light conditions.

Zoom and Bokeh

LG’s decision to include a super-wide-angle second lens on the V30 means that its zoom capabilities are a little limited compared to dual-camera smartphones with a longer-focal length second lens. At 2x magnification, resolution remains acceptable in all lighting conditions, but expect to see a significant drop in resolution and an increase in visible artifacts at greater magnifications.

Medium range (approximately 4x) zoom shots are usable, but lag behind what’s possible for devices equipped with a longer-focal length second lens.

The LG doesn’t feature a native bokeh option (that is, a portrait mode) for artificially blurring the background. Add to this some distortion of facial features caused by shooting portraits at close range with the standard lens, as well as relatively poor flash results, and it means that the V30 isn’t ideal for taking portraits.

There’s no bokeh mode on the V30 to artificially blur the background in portraits.

Photo scores explained

The LG V30 achieves a total photo score of 87, which is calculated from its scores in tests that examine different aspects of its performance under different lighting conditions. In this section we’ll take a closer look at these image quality sub-scores.

Exposure and Contrast (82)

With reasonably consistent results in all lighting conditions, the LG V30 achieved a good overall score of 82 for exposure. It scored best outdoors (89), good indoors (81), but a lower result in low light (73). Test exposures of charts under consistent lighting in the lab showed that the V30 is capable of accurate target exposures in well-balanced lighting conditions. Shooting our natural test scenes outdoors, we identified limited dynamic range on challenging high-contrast scenes, with details often lost in the darker regions. Highlights are reasonably well-preserved, however, which is a bonus, as it’s easier to lift shadows in post-production than recover any blown out highlights.

In our head-to-head comparison, the iPhone X clearly displays greater dynamic range, with more detail visible in both the shadow and highlight regions. The tradeoff is between contrast and punch, however, with the iPhone X HDR shots looking a little washed out in the midtones compared to both the V30 and the Samsung Note 8. In theory, it’s a better strategy from the iPhone X, depending on what you’re shooting, but you’ll need to increase contrast in post-production to get a shot with the same punch that the V30 records.

LG V30
Apple iPhone X
Samsung Galaxy Note 8

We see something similar in our backlit window portrait natural scene. While the highlight detail out the window is clearly overexposed, the V30 has accurately exposed the most important element in the picture, the portrait subject, and delivers an overall pleasing result with good contrast.

LG V30 backlit window portrait natural test scene.

In extreme low light of just 1 Lux (effectively candlelight), images from the V30 are slightly underexposed but remain usable.

LG V30 extreme low light (1 Lux) test chart exposure.

Color (79)

The V30 achieves a good overall score for color, thanks to vivid rendering and consistent scores in all tested lighting conditions. In our window balcony natural test scene, the V30’s color saturation isn’t as strong as the iPhone X’s or the Samsung Note 8’s, and a slight green color cast is evident, but overall the color rendition remains good. White balance is mainly accurate, particularly in indoor and low-light conditions, but some visible color casts occur outdoors, varying between pink or green depending on the conditions. In low light, some color shading is also visible, shifting from pink in the center to green at the corners, but the effect isn’t overly strong or too distracting.

LG V30
Apple iPhone X
Samsung Galaxy Note 8
LG V30 image shows color shifting slightly pink in sunny conditions.
LG V30 image with some color shading visible in low light.

Autofocus (77)

A good score for autofocus, which is very accurate in all lighting conditions, consistently achieving a high number of sharp photos. Autofocus speed is slow, however, with a long delay over 500ms (half a second) between requesting focus and a shot being taken. That delay could be the difference between capturing or missing the decisive moment in action photography, making the V30 better suited to shooting relatively static subjects. Autofocus speed is unusually slower in bright light. In our low-light (20 Lux) lab tests in which we defocus the device between each frame and time the speed to find focus, the average shooting time was significantly faster at 3ms compared to the bright-light average.

Defocusing between each shot and then requesting focus, the V30 was slow to respond in bright light (1000 Lux), with the average delay well over 500ms (half a second).

Texture (67)

Fine detail preservation is excellent in bright-light conditions and remains very good in low light, where the V30 outperforms both the iPhone X and Samsung Note 8. The V30 achieves consistently good texture scores on static scenes in all lighting conditions. With scenes containing subject motion, good texture is possible in bright light conditions over 300 Lux, and although detail drops off noticeably in lower light, it’s far from the worst we’ve seen. Detail preservation is broadly similar on tripod and handheld shots between 20 and 1000 Lux, and although tripod shots are marginally sharper, there’s not much to it. Between 1 and 20 Lux it’s a different story, however, with tripod shots showing significantly better detail in low light, despite the primary camera lens featuring OIS.

LG V30 texture scores under different lighting conditions on both static scenes and scenes containing some subject motion.

Crops of test chart images shot handheld in the lab show that detail preservation on the V30 isn’t quite as strong as that of the iPhone X in bright light conditions, but it’s not far off, and the V30 offers a little more detail compared to the Samsung Note 8 in bright light.

Crop of image from LG V30 at 1000 Lux.
Crop of image from iPhone X at 1000 Lux.
Crop of image from Note 8 at 1000 Lux.

Texture is better in low light compared to its rivals, however. The V30 displays more detail compared to both the iPhone X and the Samsung Note 8 at 5 Lux, helping the V30 achieve a higher overall score for texture of 67, compared to 65 each for the premium Samsung and Apple devices.

Crop of image from LG V30 at 5 Lux.
Crop of image from iPhone X at 5 Lux.
Crop of image from Samsung Note 8 at 5 Lux.

Noise (66)

Achieving very good score for noise, which is well-controlled in the majority of test scenes, the V30 offers a good compromise between texture preservation and noise in most cases. Strong coarse noise is visible in areas of uniform color such as the sky, and other bright/flat areas when shooting outdoors, but it’s only really problematic when displaying images at large scale.

The V30 outperforms the iPhone X for noise in low-light conditions between 5 and 20 Lux, but it isn’t as strong as the Samsung Note 8, which applies some fairly aggressive noise reduction for smoother results.

Crop of image from LG V30 at 20 Lux.
Crop of image from iPhone X at 20 Lux.
Crop of image from Note 8 at 20 Lux.

 

Crop of image from LG V30 at 5 Lux.
Crop of image from iPhone X at 5 Lux.
Crop of image from Samsung Note 8 at 5 Lux.

Artifacts (68)

We deducted points from the V30 for visible artifacts(optical flaws in images). The main deductions were for a cyan shift and oversaturation of blue skies, and noticeable color fringing (chromatic aberrations along contrast edges). The latter problem is only really visible on strongly backlit scenes, or when viewing images at large scale, however, so it isn’t much of a concern when looking at images on a device screen. We also observed and deducted points for some noisy edges, ringing, and ghosting, but these issues were less of a concern compared to the cyan shift and fringing.

On close inspection, some color fringing along contrast edges in backlit scenes is visible in V30 images.
A cyan shift or oversaturation of blue skies often occurs in high-contrast scenes.

Flash (71)

The V30 wound up with a low score for flash, due mainly to a strong purple cast in all flash shots — including mixed lighting and flash-only pictures. A course luminance noise is also visible, particularly in the corners, along with the loss of some fine detail. On the plus side, flash exposures and white balance are consistent across consecutive frames, with repeatable results in all lighting conditions, and the flash output is well-centered in the frame with only minimal falloff (vignetting) evident.

Flash shots on the V30 display a noticeable purple color cast in all lighting conditions, and the red-eye effect is often visible in portraits, too.

Zoom (35)

Due to the absence of a telephoto lens providing an optical zoom function, the V30 has a fairly low score for zoom. Using the digital zoom at close range up to around 2x magnification, resolution and detail remain good, with consistent results in all lighting conditions. Magnifying the image beyond 2x results in a noticeable drop in resolution, visible luminance noise, as well as some aliasing and moiré effects. In bright light, results are acceptable at mid-range zoom up to around 5x magnification, but the V30 records noticeably less detail compared to devices with a telephoto lens, such as the iPhone X and the Samsung Note 8.

Crop of LG V30 image using zoom at mid-range under 1000 Lux lighting.
Crop of iPhone X image using zoom at mid-range under 1000 Lux lighting.
Crop of Samsung Note 8 image using zoom at mid-range under 1000 Lux lighting.

Sharp images using the zoom beyond 2x magnification is challenging in all lighting conditions, with very poor resolution on long-range zoom shots of around 8x magnification.

LG V30 zoom at long range.
iPhone X zoom at long range.
Samsung Note 8 zoom at long range.

Bokeh (25)

The V30 achieves the default score of 25 points for bokeh, as it doesn’t feature a portrait mode to artificially blur the background in portraits.

The LG V30 does not feature a bokeh or portrait mode.

Video scores explained

The LG V30 achieves a Video score of 73 points, which has had a negative impact on its overall score despite a good score in the Photo category. The overall Video score is calculated using the video sub-scores to give us some indication of the device’s pros and cons for shooting moving images: Exposure (80), Color (74), Autofocus (49), Texture (40), Noise (64), Artifacts (77), and Stabilization (73).

LG markets the V30 as good for shooting video, and it’s true that it offers interesting and advanced features, including an app for manual control over video exposure, cinematic video filters, LOG format for color grading in post-production, and the ability to plug in an external mic, which is rare for a smartphone. However, tested using the V30’s default video mode, which utilizes the longer-focal length primary camera, its performance and image quality underwhelming during our tests.

Video exposure and color are very acceptable generally, with good test chart exposures achieved in most lighting conditions, low levels of noise in both low and bright light, and accurate color rendering. The best results were achieved on static subjects, however, and the temporal aspects of the V30’s video let it down a little. Autofocus performance is particularly an issue, with no tracking or face detection activated in default mode, and stabilization could be improved, with some residual motion evident in movies. We also observed white balance inconsistencies under lighting changes, resulting in noticeable color shifts between frames. So while better video may be possible with the photographer’s manual intervention to get the best out of the V30’s video capabilities, that possibility falls outside the scope of our analysis.

Conclusion: Excellent still image performer

The V30 is a very capable for still photos with good (if not exceptional) exposures and color in all lighting conditions. With texture and noise results in low light that outperform some of the top-ranked devices we’ve tested, the LG earns itself a high Photo score of 87 points, despite lacking optical tele-zoom and bokeh features. The overall ranking is negatively impacted by a lower video score, but overall, the V30 is a great smartphone for landscapes, architecture, and other photo genres that focus on largely static scenes. It is also important to keep in mind that while the V30’s secondary wide-angle lens does not have an impact on the scores in our test protocol, it is a differentiator in a crowded market and a potentially useful creative tool for many users.

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Pros

  • Accurate test chart exposures in all lighting conditions
  • Excellent color rendition, with bold color in all lighting conditions
  • Accurate white balance in low light and indoor lighting conditions
  • Well-controlled noise in low-light conditions

Pros

  • Accurate test chart exposures in all lighting conditions
  • Well-controlled noise in indoor and outdoor conditions
  • Accurate color rendering and white balance in most conditions

Cons

  • Poor resolution in mid- and long-range zoom shots
  • No portrait (bokeh) mode, despite featuring two cameras
  • Limited dynamic range in high-contrast scenes

Cons

  • Autofocus instabilities in all lighting conditions
  • Visible residual vibrations with walking motion
  • White balance failures with illumination changes
  • Max Sidorovich

    Quite agree, but IMO video from V30 looks much more sharp, then one from Mate 10 Pro, which was given a much higher score.

  • Moisés

    Please test XA2, A8, XZ1c, U11 Life, Moto X4, Moto Z2 Force and Honor V19.

    • Tann

      I really dont want them to drill through any Xperia devices any more.
      Selective features scoring site proclaimed to be objective photography reference test site….is just a bad joke

  • tonethebone925

    So can we dock points from the other phones for not having a Wide Angle lens?

    • Bas D. Nissen

      Exactly… not even part of the test. Somehow pretty unfair, especially considering the downloadable HDR+ Google Pixel camera app for portrait (or generally nicer shots) works on both V30 lenses but there’s no way a phone can imitate a wide angle without external accessories.

    • PadmaN

      It is also important to keep in mind that while the V30’s secondary wide-angle lens does not have an impact on the scores in our test protocol, it is a differentiator in a crowded market and a potentially useful creative tool for many users.

      It doesn’t affect the score so why would you do that?

      • tonethebone925

        Cons

        No portrait (bokeh) mode, despite featuring two cameras

        • PadmaN

          You can remove second part of this sentence because it simply doesn’t have BOKEH mode in the stock APP even if it had 3rd telephoto lens. Purely LG’s fault for not adding a SOFTWARE feature to the APP. It has nothing to do with any lens. It’s missing software feature.

  • PadmaN

    The Zoom test is unfair. Note 8 scores extra points because of Telephoto lens but V30 doesn’t get any points in any test for it’s Wide Angle Lens. If it was fair Note 8 (and all other phones) should have it’s zoom tested using the basic lens only OR there should be a test that grants extra points for Wide Angle capabilities. Your Cons about no BOKEH mode has nothing to do with 2 cameras, it’s purely software feature so second part of that sentence is pointless.

  • paviko

    In “Low-light” section 5 lux image is attached instead of 1 lux. Please correct this, it’s interesting what is the output of 1.6 lens in 1 lux.

  • Anh Khoa Trần

    I think giving a score to a mobile camera should only focus on the image quality other than the flash, zoom, bokeh things…..

    • flodxomark

      Dear Anh,
      We decided to do a massive change to our set of tests measuring Zoom performance and Bokeh quality because we thought that it was necessary to keep up with the rapid pace of innovation in smartphone cameras. Consequently, we expanded our DxOMark Mobile with two new sub-scores join our existing Photo sub-scores to create the new overall Photo score. Even this features is something you’re not interested, it’s important for some readers. Please read our article: https://www.dxomark.com/introducing-the-new-dxomark-mobile-test-protocol/
      Regards

      • Artem Larionov

        Maybe you should make option to exclude these new sub-scores from final score, cause clearly these functions are not needed for many users.

  • GP2O

    Lol they no paid

  • Marco Belluzzi

    After reading the review of the lg v30 my consideration on the tests and on the DxoMark scores has dropped a lot. You can not see the mate 10 pro there at the top and the v30 so low, when in the reality of things v30 is better.

    • Bas D. Nissen

      Funny enough how the test and pictures say that the V30 outperforms the iPhone X and Note 8 in noise or details, yet it has lower end scores in “noise”, “artifacts” and “texture”… I smell outselling ^^

    • gnaLor

      It’s a standardized test, they need to stick with it. Contrary to pretty much every other review, you get the exact results for every factor.
      The problem is they’ve put in gimmicks like telelens and bokeh in the first place as fixed features that give a bonus points. If they want to include gimmicks in the score, which will change as we’ve seen here, they should include it as an generalized score, so that every feature (also things like wide lens) can be rated. This solution would be less standardized, since you cannot directly compare the features and thus their judging of the features would be subjective. It’s still better though, because as they do it now, the end score, which is what most people look at, gets manipulated too much.

  • Acciaremy

    Tons of bul*****s. So the telephoto is better than the wide-angle? Who decided this?? Strange, because almost ALL the reviewers said exactly the contrary!! with the porting of the GCam now this telephone is almost perfect (the front cam is MUCH better, but always 2 steps down the others) but… C’mon, 82 is REALLY too low boys…

  • Muhammad Rian Ardian

    “THERE IS NO BOKEH MODE IN LG V30”
    Well..underline the word “MODE” here…you got “SELECTIVE FOCUS” mode in SAMSUNG GALAXY S8/S7 EDGE/Note5…
    Why don’t you just try that as an example of? Well, if you ever thought that’s not software you were consisting of about, people would still use it as a benefit for BOKEH anyway…just like I did with my s8

  • Benjamin L

    Agree with some of the other comments here. The image quality should be just that.. image quality. Whether or not a phone has bokeh should not affect the score. The score and review does seem quite biased especially when there is clearly more detail in low-light images than the iPhoneX. Video scores are barely explained and no sample footage, yet given a low score. I can see why users are skeptical. Even the Mi Note 3 seemed to score a 90.

    • flodxomark

      Dear Benjamin, we decided to do a massive change to our set of tests measuring Zoom performance and Bokeh quality because we thought that it was necessary to keep up with the rapid pace of innovation in smartphone cameras. Consequently, we have overhauled and expanded our DxOMark Mobile with two new sub-scores join our existing Photo sub-scores to create the new overall Photo score. Please read more about our protocol: https://www.dxomark.com/dxomark-mobile-testing-protocol-scores/ Regards

      • Tann

        You do score Selective camera innovation jump all right…
        if apple/samsung/google has extra features, you ll score it. If lg/sony has sth else of them extra features, you ll not score it…until apple/samsung/pixel get those features too, of course.
        Sony had background defocus aka portrait mode, and loosles zoom feature 5 years ago, but you only decide to score them features when apple/samsung/pixel made them 5 years after.
        You became a joke.

  • Steven

    I had the belief that Dxomark was a serious and reliable site to get an idea of the quality of smartphone cameras. The review of the LG V30 destroyed my belief.
    I do not understand why in front of a picture quality clearly superior in texture and noise compared to iphone X is given a score even lower (iphone x: Texture 65 Noise 69; V30: Texture 67 noise 66).
    This is not an objective but subjective judgement.

  • Baz T

    Um, DXOMark? How are my comments spam? Please correct this issue- it is not appreciated

    • flodxomark

      Hello, our system detected something suspicious in your message. We fixed your answer but in the future please do not use capital LETTER for writing. Thank you.

      • Baz T

        Thank you for your reply. I suppose I understand the reasoning…

  • Sheaffer

    WHERE IS THE SCORE ABOUT SUPER WIDEANGLE CAMERA????????
    And in LG’s manual mode, you can choose focus!!! like Bokeh mode!
    prev LG V20 got 80 at Video score.
    It’s weird.Don’t you think?

    • D13H4RD2L1V3

      They mean artificial software blur.

      The focal length difference between the two means that it won’t get the same depth info as a dual-camera setup with a secondary zoom lens or one with both having the same focal length. Though you can sideload the GCam app to add software blur which uses entirely computational means.

      I still think it should have been counted as a bonus criteria and not part of a full analysis because it can penalize those with single cameras or different dual-camera setups.

      • Bas D. Nissen

        You can disable the blur in the settings via the noise reduction button.

        • D13H4RD2L1V3

          That is blur from noise reduction.

          We’re talking artificial software blur that tries to mimic the soft backgrounds produced by a large-sensor camera with a fast prime lens (but usually ends up looking overly artificial IMO)

  • D13H4RD2L1V3

    You know, I REALLY wished LG started putting bigger camera sensors again. Since the V20, they have gotten smaller and coupled with the smaller pixels, I feel overall quality has degraded sonewhat

    • Bas D. Nissen

      Well, you feel wrong 😀

      Got a G5 – same sensor as G4 – beside my V30 and the V30 annihilates it.

      • D13H4RD2L1V3

        Well, I have used the V30+ and I remember the shots I valiantly took with my old G4 before it died.

        Honestly, I preferred the G4’s shots. They look less splotchy, noisy and actually seems to have slightly better DR. The V30 isn’t terrible, but by default, it just feels a lot like a Samsung camera (noise-reduction a bit overdone by default and processing HDR does take a while).

        The glass lens element and 10-bit color grading are all great, but I just don’t get why they decided putting a 1/3.1” sensor was a good idea. I mean, it’s not a bad camera, but wouldn’t common sense dictate a camera with a larger image sensor with everything else being the same will usually win?

        You do get better results using GCam and editing the RAW file yourself, but I still wish they’d kept the same sensor size from the V20 but used an upgraded model from Sony and kept all the goodies like the glass lens element.

    • Marco Belluzzi

      You do not have to take into account only the dimensions of the sensor, but also the quality of the optics. On the v30 lg he has clearly put high quality glass lenses that bring a lot of light to the sensor. The v30 sensor also has the advantage of saved in 10 bit raw … but this dxomark does not care!

      • Bas D. Nissen

        Actually RAW is 14bit, what makes the V30 sensor special is the 10 bit VIDEO recording (HDR10)

        • Marco Belluzzi

          Thanks for the clarification.

          • Bas D. Nissen

            Pleasure 🙂

      • D13H4RD2L1V3

        That is true.

        But it’s still a sore thumb for me because I would have loved seeing those optics paired with a sensor that can soak up more light.

        I don’t know why LG chose to go smaller. It just seems odd to add better optics and 10-bit color support but pair it with a sensor that doesn’t soak up a lot of light (on paper at least)

  • The thing is that stock LG V30 and LG G6 camera destroys pictures quality dramatically. Mosty because of too aggressive noise reduction. Once V30 came out I had high hopes for it. Unfortunately photo samples I’ve seen were just horrible. No details. But every thing changed once Google camera mod for LG G6 and V30 came out and got polished to the level, where it works like a charm. These phones are now great value for money. Low price, great camera quality and nice wide angle. Recently they even managed to mod camera for wide angle sensor. Hey DXOMark, maybe you should consider a new category – google camera mod 🙂 More and more phones are getting it. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/ Even Essential Phone PH1 got one, and from horrible camera phone became not so bad one 🙂

    • Bas D. Nissen

      Have a V30 with both apps… noticed that the V30 app makes darker but slightly more detailed images with less noise and artifacts. Dynamic range and colors are better on the Google HDR app. Doesn’t support 4K video or manual modes though.

      The scores here are a joke though, just look at the ebony lady and the farmer at 5 lux each xD

      Imho, the rank for the V30 quality would be:
      1. Manual mode + Lightroom
      2. Google HDR
      3. Automatic Mode

      • Dear Bas, We test each device with hardware and software that will be used by the final user. Most of the time the camera is used with the default camera application.
        There are many attributes that significantly depend on the camera software solution. A third-party application would be interesting but it would not get a more accurate evaluation of the intrinsic capabilities of the device. Each Manufacturer put a lot of effort on both aspects (hardware and software).

        • Bas D. Nissen

          And you don’t even include the own manufacturers key features. So LG put a lot of effort into:

          – manual modes for photo and video
          – wide angle capturing
          – RAW and log capturing
          – smooth zoom features
          – 10 bit video recording
          – multiple microfones + Receiver as Mic
          – and sound settings while recording

          … and you ignore them completely inside the test as well. These features are meant to be used, they even are a reason to buy the phone, yet the most professional camera website on the net doesn’t think it’s necessary to include them. Okay.

  • tryhp3

    Can you test LG G6?

  • CID

    “The V30 outperforms the iPhone X for noise in low-light conditions between 5 and 20 Lux, but it isn’t as strong as the Samsung Note 8, which applies some fairly aggressive noise reduction for smoother results.”
    V30 Noise (66)
    iPhone X Noise (69) I find it strange…

    • Bas D. Nissen

      The only way this would be possible would be the iPhone being better at decent light… but that’s not the case either.

      • Dear CID and Bas, Generally, the LG V30 has a low level of noise on uniform areas but has a strong level of noise in the sky.
        Furthermore, LG V30 has noise in the field issue (it means that the level of noise is increases radially), one issue that the Apple iPhone X handles better than the LG V30. Regards

  • Andrei

    I’ll just leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAth8g05tfs
    73 Video Score..
    I think this will be the last time I looking at this site for camera reviews, it’s a shame.

    • It’s a completely different story when you’re using extra equipment, retarded comment.

      • Andrei

        So in your opinion, a stabilizer affects the quality of the video. And it does not matter if they edited the images a bit because you have to be very dumb to not know how to do that with the million of apps available. They simply don’t like LG, take a look on youtube or some other websites at side by side comparisons of LG V30 and any other flagship and you will see that almost everytime LG V30 goes on top.

      • Bas D. Nissen

        A simple gimble is now called “extra equipment” like it makes it a new camera… K? All phone stabilizers are bullshit compared to a gimble or even a GoPro.

        Manual control and log is the whole point of the V30 video mode, which wasn’t even tested by these “camera experts” in contrast to a bad fake bokeh for Instawhores…

        Actually comparing a “25 higher video score” Pixel 2 to a V30, the Pixel 2 destroys night videos with a ton of noise, massive overlighting and yellow tint. Plus it doesn’t offer 10bit video with HDR10 or the log feature. These things are important though and should be considered in professional testing. (Oh and did i mention the “~100 photo score” Pixel doesn’t even support RAW? Lel…)

        Or in other comparisons like iPhone vs RED, you can clearly see the differences in lighting and noise, here you barely can.

        If one comment is retarded, it’s yours.

  • Zack Ra

    Please test Nubia Z17

  • Rodrigo Alejandro

    no es más que basura mariiiinaaaa ….

  • Alexander Mohr

    thank you!!

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